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2008-2013 Cadillac CTS General Discussion Discussion, GM's latest RECALL includes CTS... in Cadillac CTS Second Generation Forum - 2008-2013; This gets confusing. Is the FOB what is on the same ring as my key [that is inserted into ignition] ...
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    Re: GM's latest RECALL includes CTS...

    This gets confusing. Is the FOB what is on the same ring as my key [that is inserted into ignition] and operates the door locks, trunk and emergency horn?

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    Re: GM's latest RECALL includes CTS...

    [QUOTE=The_Judge;12759953]
    Quote Originally Posted by Cadillac Cust Svc View Post
    ...it is important that you use the ignition key and nothing else, including the key fob...."

    SAY WHAT? If you have a FOB, there is no ignition key to use! What are you talking about?
    Understand, folks, that some of us poor folks actually - get this - we actually have to stick a key into an ignition switch!!! Oh, the horror, I know, but that's what we have to do to get our cars started. This FOB thingy, that is similar to what you rich folks have that opens your doors and automatically starts your cars for you because it pairs up with another module that can go wrong and will then be recalled. So, what we poor folks do is we keep our "FOB thingy" attached via a "key ring" to our "ignition key" so we can use the FOB to open our car doors with the press of a button and have it conveniently available.

    You will be quizzed later.

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    Re: GM's latest RECALL includes CTS...

    [QUOTE=The_Judge;12759953]
    Quote Originally Posted by Cadillac Cust Svc View Post
    ...it is important that you use the ignition key and nothing else, including the key fob...."

    SAY WHAT? If you have a FOB, there is no ignition key to use! What are you talking about?
    It shows the quality of responses from Cadillac Customer Services

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    Re: GM's latest RECALL includes CTS...

    The last thing I will ever do is to put words in Cadillac's mouth. I believe their response in post #14 pertains to having the fob hang from the ignition key.

    And I apologize for my smart response in my post #17. I won't erase it as I have already said it. I mis-read what Judge implied. After rereading the Cadillac Customer Service comments I understand what Judge wrote now. My apologies to you, Judge.

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    Re: GM's latest RECALL includes CTS...

    [QUOTE=The_Judge;12759953]
    Quote Originally Posted by Cadillac Cust Svc View Post
    ...it is important that you use the ignition key and nothing else, including the key fob...."

    SAY WHAT? If you have a FOB, there is no ignition key to use! What are you talking about?
    "Whatchu talkin bout Willis...!"
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    Re: GM's latest RECALL includes CTS...

    Cadillac Service was not incorrect in using the word fob in its description; a fob can be anything attached to a key via a chain (but in this case, it is the remote control for open/lock/trunk); if you need a key to start your car then the fob only does the aforementioned functions. If your fob also starts your car (via proximity identification) then the notice is moot (to your application). I also feel that they are being over-cautious in telling you to only use your key (sans fob) but I think that they are under the microscope (at GM) and have to err on the side of caution; I would though, not have any excess key accessories or additional keys on the chain.
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    I agree they are over couscous but hen again I never put anything on the key/fob except my small home key. I never understood why people put so much crap on their key chains. For me it foes not make any sense. But they just me.

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    Re: GM's latest RECALL includes CTS...

    Well, I am at an impasse, do I keep this car or get rid of it? Let me say why, first, my concerns about the drivetrain. It appears that the transmission and rear differentials are not the best.... At least on the AWD models..... And while most of the problems seem to be related to the 2008 model, I am not sure if improvements/corrections were made on the later model years... Second, the problem with the water leaks. Again, it looks like a 2008 issue, but not sure if the corrections were ever made. Sure, I have an extended GM warranty, but at this point, what is it worth? To be fair, it is a nice designed car, better than most of its equivalents. However, that does not make up for parts quality or build quality.... I wish someone would say, that by 2013, the problem areas were resolved.... Sadly, I don't think that is the case......

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    Re: GM's latest RECALL includes CTS...

    =tinman;12759289]Google "Pinto".[/QUOTE]


    Also google "pinto myth"

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    Mine has a key and no recall yet on the GM site.

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    Supposedly we'll be getting new ignition lock cylinders, new keys and new fobs as well. I have an 09 CTS and I work at a dealer. Fix will take time though, they need to make 8 million of them. Meanwhile, don't have a bulky keychain, that's the problem

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    Re: GM's latest RECALL includes CTS...

    Welcome, leadtrumpetman...great name, btw...your "inside info" is appreciated...looking forward to any updates...thanks.

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    Re: GM's latest RECALL includes CTS...

    Quote Originally Posted by Panzer Leader View Post
    Well, I am at an impasse, do I keep this car or get rid of it? Let me say why, first, my concerns about the drivetrain. It appears that the transmission and rear differentials are not the best.... At least on the AWD models..... And while most of the problems seem to be related to the 2008 model, I am not sure if improvements/corrections were made on the later model years... Second, the problem with the water leaks. Again, it looks like a 2008 issue, but not sure if the corrections were ever made. Sure, I have an extended GM warranty, but at this point, what is it worth? To be fair, it is a nice designed car, better than most of its equivalents. However, that does not make up for parts quality or build quality.... I wish someone would say, that by 2013, the problem areas were resolved.... Sadly, I don't think that is the case......
    The only mechanical problem my 2013 has had is alignment. The dealer couldn't get it right, so I had the local Goodyear store align it properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hauler
    The dealer couldn't get it right, so I had the local Goodyear store align it properly.
    Haha, fail!
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    Re: GM's latest RECALL includes CTS...

    It has been public knowledge for about 15-20 years (although not necessarily "common" knowledge) not to hang too much on your keychain. I will say, however, that ever since I started driving keys with keyless ignition, I put as much or as little on there as I want BECAUSE it is not going to put into my ignition. Thus, my initial question why would this recall apply to those vehicles that have key fobs AND do not have to physically put a key into the ignition?

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