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2008-2013 Cadillac CTS General Discussion Discussion, Successful navigation swap into a non Nav CTS in Cadillac CTS Second Generation Forum - 2008-2013; Originally Posted by rudeboyspi How did the swap go? I might put up a YouTube video. The problem is that ...
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    Re: Successful navigation swap into a non Nav CTS

    Quote Originally Posted by rudeboyspi View Post
    How did the swap go? I might put up a YouTube video. The problem is that will take a lot of work.
    Hey i need some help here> swap has been frustrating to say the least. It is very involved.

    I have EVERYTHING else working except for the sound. All the wires have been re-pinned to the new AMP with the schematics provided. The fourth x4 amp has also been connected. Screen goes up and down and all other functions are working except sound.

    I haven't been able to hook up the GM LAN connection. Is this the problem with no sound? I have don't know where to take the GM LAN from. I saw a white connector with other dark green GM LAN wires but I do not understand where I need to tap in the new GM LAN connection and where it goes. PLEASEEEEEE HELLLLLP!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcmunir

    Hey i need some help here> swap has been frustrating to say the least. It is very involved.

    I have EVERYTHING else working except for the sound. All the wires have been re-pinned to the new AMP with the schematics provided. The fourth x4 amp has also been connected. Screen goes up and down and all other functions are working except sound.

    I haven't been able to hook up the GM LAN connection. Is this the problem with no sound? I have don't know where to take the GM LAN from. I saw a white connector with other dark green GM LAN wires but I do not understand where I need to tap in the new GM LAN connection and where it goes. PLEASEEEEEE HELLLLLP!!!
    Ok this is why i did, you need to make sure the wires that goes from the head unit to the amp is shielded. I had the same issue, all five wires. I think it was five or 7. The next thing it have to be on the gmlan because that how the amp get activated. I ran the gmlan by tapping into the hdd gmlan wire and ran it to the amp with the other wire to the amp. Make sure it is shielded else no sound. If you have Bluetooth no get that to work with voice commad you need to run shielded wire from rear view over head to hdd. That should resolve your issue.

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    Re: Successful navigation swap into a non Nav CTS

    Quote Originally Posted by rudeboyspi View Post
    Ok this is why i did, you need to make sure the wires that goes from the head unit to the amp is shielded. I had the same issue, all five wires. I think it was five or 7. The next thing it have to be on the gmlan because that how the amp get activated. I ran the gmlan by tapping into the hdd gmlan wire and ran it to the amp with the other wire to the amp. Make sure it is shielded else no sound. If you have Bluetooth no get that to work with voice commad you need to run shielded wire from rear view over head to hdd. That should resolve your issue.

    Rudeboyspi, I dont have bluetooth but I see what you are saying. What pin to do you take the GM LAN into the amp? Is it the x2 low speed gm lan serial data? Can you further explain this please? I am so close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcmunir

    Rudeboyspi, I dont have bluetooth but I see what you are saying. What pin to do you take the GM LAN into the amp? Is it the x2 low speed gm lan serial data? Can you further explain this please? I am so close.
    Sorry that is the part I don't remember. Let me see give me a few mins. I am at work, I think I have my PDF in my pc. Hold

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    Quote Originally Posted by rudeboyspi

    Sorry that is the part I don't remember. Let me see give me a few mins. I am at work, I think I have my PDF in my pc. Hold
    Ok I think this is it. The 44 pin connector you can use pin 14 or 28. I used pin14 and run that to amp x2 in pin1. Make sure it is shielded. I had to do that twice. The gmlan wire is also under driver seat but I would have to it out and it was too much work. That is why did it that way. The wire is d-grn. Gm low speed

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    Quote Originally Posted by rudeboyspi

    Ok I think this is it. The 44 pin connector you can use pin 14 or 28. I used pin14 and run that to amp x2 in pin1. Make sure it is shielded. I had to do that twice. The gmlan wire is also under driver seat but I would have to it out and it was too much work. That is why did it that way. The wire is d-grn. Gm low speed
    P. s I had to replace my rear sub because the amp was too powerful for it. If you listen to your music at high volume you will run into that issue. Just a heads up. It is a lot of work but after it is completed you should be happy

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    Re: Successful navigation swap into a non Nav CTS

    Quote Originally Posted by rudeboyspi View Post
    P. s I had to replace my rear sub because the amp was too powerful for it. If you listen to your music at high volume you will run into that issue. Just a heads up. It is a lot of work but after it is completed you should be happy
    I have an aftermarket rear subs 2 12". So just to make sure, all wires have to be shielded. How did you shield them? What did you use to block the waves/interference? I tried to take x2 pin 1 and run a wire to under the seat to where the rest of the GM LAN connections are. All i got was static. I guess this is because of not shielding the wires. I will take your route since taking the seat out was a pain in the ass. I will keep you posted as we try to do it your way. Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcmunir

    I have an aftermarket rear subs 2 12". So just to make sure, all wires have to be shielded. How did you shield them? What did you use to block the waves/interference? I tried to take x2 pin 1 and run a wire to under the seat to where the rest of the GM LAN connections are. All i got was static. I guess this is because of not shielding the wires. I will take your route since taking the seat out was a pain in the ass. I will keep you posted as we try to do it your way. Thanks again
    I had to go to best buy and bought some high end shielded wires. I paid like $20 and it was worth every penny. They were thick and shield from all short of stuff. It is good practice to shield all the wires or get shield wires. That I'd what I did. I ran into a issue where I would get sound from music but not voice guidance. That is the reason why you need to get them all shielded. It took me along time to figure that out. It was a headache.

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    Re: Successful navigation swap into a non Nav CTS

    Sounds good. I will get to best buy asap. Cant wait to get this done right! Did you shield the wire going from gmlan to amp? Which ones did you exactly shield?

    By the way, thanks i really appreciate all your help man

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcmunir
    Sounds good. I will get to best buy asap. Cant wait to get this done right! Did you shield the wire going from gmlan to amp? Which ones did you exactly shield?

    By the way, thanks i really appreciate all your help man
    I don't remember, good luck. I know voice guidance as to be shielded.

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    Re: Successful navigation swap into a non Nav CTS

    hey sounds good. If you remember anything else let me know. I went to best buy and unfortunately up here they dont carry them any more. I will try to find some at an audio shop.
    ill keep ya posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcmunir
    hey sounds good. If you remember anything else let me know. I went to best buy and unfortunately up here they dont carry them any more. I will try to find some at an audio shop.
    ill keep ya posted.
    Ok good luck

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    Re: Successful navigation swap into a non Nav CTS

    Quick question: I only want to add USB support to my existing non-Nav unit. Will I have to perform both the screen and amp upgrade if I buy a Nav/DVD/HDD (part # 22790325) head unit, or would I be better off waiting and purchasing the head unit that supports USB without Nav (part # 20904448)?

    For reference:
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    20904448
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    Quote Originally Posted by grsychckn
    Quick question: I only want to add USB support to my existing non-Nav unit. Will I have to perform both the screen and amp upgrade if I buy a Nav/DVD/HDD (part # 22790325) head unit, or would I be better off waiting and purchasing the head unit that supports USB without Nav (part # 20904448)?

    For reference:
    22790325
    <img src="http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=97358"/>

    20904448
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    Hey the best thing for you would have to get a hdd that only have USB and not the other ports because they require to have nav screen and all wires. Those in the pic wouldn't be a good idea. I think it should only have 4 ports total.

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    Re: Successful navigation swap into a non Nav CTS

    got sound working for music/onstar/phone.

    Working on getting voice guidance working and as well as signal/door chimes

    Rudeboi do you remember what wires you shielded to get those working?

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