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2004-2007 Cadillac CTS-V Performance Mods Discussion, Katech Shifter Installed in Cadillac CTS-V Series Forum - 2004 - 2007; I know we have a couple of shifter threads going now, but I wanted to start a new thread specific ...
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    Katech Shifter Installed

    I know we have a couple of shifter threads going now, but I wanted to start a new thread specific to my shifter installation and the fun that was had last night.

    First, as others have said, I would like to meet the genius that designed this set up. Can you say PITA? Definitely not like the BMWs and Audis I've done in the past. Well, let's start by saying that I used wheel ramps and jack stands, and it took longer than two hours - probably closer to 4 hours including breaks and cleanup. In retrospect I probably should have used four jack stands. I will also say that I am no SAE certified mechanic, just some guy with instructions, some common sense and basic hand tools - enough stuff to be dangerous.

    I decided to start with the inside stuff. Removing the boot, foam insulation, and the nuts & bolts inside the car was pretty straightforward, but did they have to use locktite on the two bolts that are hardest to reach? Looking at my stock shifter, it already had rust on it??? One tidbit that might help marginally if you must use wheel ramps, don't remove these bolts before you lower the drive shaft, as the shifter mechanism really gets in the way of that top bolt. If you can't turn your rear wheels, like me, then it does get in the way.

    Next crawling under the car, after a break of course - American Chopper, I Robot bike was on. Ok, back to work, having just installed my exhaust a couple of weeks ago, removal was pretty simple, but heavy.

    I did not remove the entire driveshaft just lowered and moved it out of the way. I did rest it rather close to the bottom of the car on a jackstand, being mindful of the 8 degree rule. Like I said, the top bolt on the drive shaft was the most difficult just because I had a tough time getting a wrench on the nut and bolt.

    Removal of the transimission mount and lowering the transmission was next. I had a tough time figuring out how low I could/should go with the transmission. I used a floor jack and put some foam between the strut bar and the engine cover. I lowered the floor jack and watched the engine at the same time. It took a few trys to get it lowered enough, and even then I think I had some room.

    Now on to the shifter removal. The clip on right fork of the shifter is easy, relatively speaking. For me the one on the left was trouble. As Martin said, I decided to remove the solenoid for additional access - I didn't think my hands were that big. The one in the middle was easy once I could actually see it. I ended having to lower the transmission even more to actually get the entire shifter assembly out - more trial and error.

    Installing the Katech into the shifter assembly was not too bad. I used plenty of Mobil 1 grease when I put it back together to aid in a smooth operation. I did manage to tear the rubber boot that goes around the bottom of the shifter slightly getting it over the bottom of the Katech - not a big issue, I hope. I installed the urethane bushings that I got from Martin - Thanks Martin. That took a bit just to get the metal around the urethane, but it was accomplished.

    I won't bore you with the installation, as this has already dragged on, and it basically just the reverse.

    In summary the shifter feels great in the car - nice short, crisp shifts. I do have one concern and that is the amount of noise associated with it. I suppose it is normal, but I don't really know for sure. Anyone who has the Katech or other short shifters please chime in. But all in all, I would say it is definitely worth it. One word of caution, if you don't like to work on cars - get dirty and what not, or in general, you're just not sure, then take it to a shop with a lift, and pay someone $100 to do it for you.

    Good luck and please feel free to make any comments - positive or negative. Also, I would appreciate any feedback on the noise issue.

    Rich

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    Re: Katech Shifter Installed

    Rich,

    Good write up on your experience with installing the Katech short shifter.
    I was just about to go ahead and order one of the Katech's after the long wait for the UUC. But just as I was about to give up on the UUC it looks like the wait is almost over with them taking my pre-order.
    I have heard that the Katech does transmit quite a bit of noise through the shifter, but with Katech's great name I would think it is going to make a great shifter for anyone who buys them. You just have to deal with a bit of noise, so turn the radio up just a little bit louder and enjoy the positive shifts..
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    Re: Katech Shifter Installed

    Now you are an expert....Only thing I would add for everyone is to put some moly lube on the end of the joint where the shifter rod connects, also on the gimball. It seems caddy installed all of this stuff dry. Pins that hold the shifter are aluminum. Lube them too!

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    Re: Katech Shifter Installed

    A couple V owners need to get together and do a UUC-Katech comparision. Without seeing them both I would lean to the UUC first because they have more experience in that area. Now if it was engine mods, Katech would be my choice. If they were both the same price, the choice would be harder also.

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    Re: Katech Shifter Installed

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's V
    A couple V owners need to get together and do a UUC-Katech comparision. Without seeing them both I would lean to the UUC first because they have more experience in that area. Now if it was engine mods, Katech would be my choice. If they were both the same price, the choice would be harder also.
    The UUC has an isolated shaft. Its not one peice . I cannot tell any difference between it and the stocker (no added noise) except a bit more vibration in hand. (very minimal).

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    Re: Katech Shifter Installed

    Quote Originally Posted by lasstss
    Now you are an expert....Only thing I would add for everyone is to put some moly lube on the end of the joint where the shifter rod connects, also on the gimball. It seems caddy installed all of this stuff dry. Pins that hold the shifter are aluminum. Lube them too!
    I wondered about lubing the connections including the other two that go to the transmission, but like you said Cadillac didn't use any, so I didn't either.

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    Re: Katech Shifter Installed

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's V
    A couple V owners need to get together and do a UUC-Katech comparision. Without seeing them both I would lean to the UUC first because they have more experience in that area. Now if it was engine mods, Katech would be my choice. If they were both the same price, the choice would be harder also.
    One nice thing about the Katech, to me anyway, is the stalk is shorter. I think the stock height is too high for the arm rest and for my arm. If you get the UUC, you can always just cut of 1/2 inch or so and thread the shaft. Also, the threaded shifter handle works great, and I can almost guarantee it won't come off during hard shifts or any other time for that matter unless you want it to.

    The Katech is a good piece just the noise issue. Also, I agree with Florian, that the shifts feel a lot shorter than 35% that Katech says.

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    Re: Katech Shifter Installed

    I just installed the katech too, I got the one with the stainless steel shaft, I have had shifters with the aluminum shaft before and had to put weights on it to get it right. the stainless shaft is quite heavy but I do not have any unsual noises it is just as quiet as before. I have also read that the aluminum shaft may cause a vibration, Is this what you are reffering to?

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    Re: Katech Shifter Installed

    I have the Aluminum and there is no throw issues, the noise is only on shifts and not during cruise and I lubed all contact points, so smooth sailing. As for vibration...none.

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    Re: Katech Shifter Installed

    Quote Originally Posted by Florian
    I have the Aluminum and there is no throw issues, the noise is only on shifts and not during cruise and I lubed all contact points, so smooth sailing. As for vibration...none.

    Florian
    Dumb question, how did Katech secure the factory knob w/o the notch ??

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    Re: Katech Shifter Installed

    their handle is tapped and they supply a tap that matches for the ID of the shifter knob. No pulling off of the knob possible.

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    Re: Katech Shifter Installed

    Quote Originally Posted by c5racr1
    I just installed the katech too, I got the one with the stainless steel shaft, I have had shifters with the aluminum shaft before and had to put weights on it to get it right. the stainless shaft is quite heavy but I do not have any unsual noises it is just as quiet as before. I have also read that the aluminum shaft may cause a vibration, Is this what you are reffering to?
    I also have the stainless steel, and it weighs a ton, compared to stock. I will crawl under the car later today and do some investigating, maybe I didn't do something or did do something that I shouldn't have. Hmmm....

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    Re: Katech Shifter Installed

    Quote Originally Posted by Florian
    I have the Aluminum and there is no throw issues, the noise is only on shifts and not during cruise and I lubed all contact points, so smooth sailing. As for vibration...none.

    Florian
    No thow issues here either. Yes, the noise is only on shifts and sounds like a rubbing or scraping noise.

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    Re: Katech Shifter Installed

    well I juns came back from a drive and the thing makes a humm, I will crawl under the ca tomorrow and do the same. if you find out please post, I will do the same.

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    Re: Katech Shifter Installed

    I think the problem is going to be because it is not isolated, I think I am going to put the stocker back in, without isolation I am going to hear every noise inside ths transmission is going to be transmitted into the interor of the car. good theory but does not work very well in practice. I hope ican salavage the stock pieces!

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