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    Re: pig in slop

    With respect to the locking ring tool, I also tried something similar to the OTC tool and found that it was too large. Trying this next:

    http://www.amazon.com/Lisle-63000-Fu...tank+ring+tool

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    Re: pig in slop

    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyLogic View Post
    With respect to the locking ring tool, I also tried something similar to the OTC tool and found that it was too large. Trying this next:

    http://www.amazon.com/Lisle-63000-Fu...tank+ring+tool
    Unless we have different locking rings...that won't fit. I'll post a close-up on my fuel locking ring failures - at least I get a full refund. The ones I purchased have a triangular pattern and the locking ring does not follow the grip pattern - they were both too big as well.

    Kent Moore Fuel Tank Lock Ring Wrench J-45722 - fail:


    I think it might be this one:
    http://www.etoolcart.com/kent-moore-...h-j-39765.aspx

    ...or this one:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kent-Moore-K...item3f2939accd

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    Edit: (many edits on here)
    Put a call into Luke at Lindsay Cadillac and he said from the drawings the listed tools are as follows:

    J-45747
    J-39765

    I'm getting some drawings from him via email.

    http://www.autozone.com/autozone/rep...96b43f80cb41ab

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    Re: pig in slop

    Based on Luke's feedback I purchased the following:

    KENT MOORE J-45747 FUEL TANK SENDING UNIT WRENCH
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/271277516541...S:3160&vxp=mtr

    I measured the inside diameter of the fuel locking ring and it is 4.5 inches - I'm not the best photographer but this measurement is definitely 4.5 inches. Notice the banged up tab getting it off.


    The ebay description says for 4-1/2" lock ring...I hope this was the reference dimension, we'll see.

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    Interesting. I'll take a look and see if I can find another one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyLogic View Post
    Interesting. I'll take a look and see if I can find another one.
    These are the reference pics I got from Luke:




    I am the king of buying parts that don't fit. I gotta send back 2 lock ring tools, a clutch bleeder, and 2 fuel strainers.

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    I have the same banged up tab. As best I can tell, there are zero J-45747's available online right now. I found one J-39765, but they're asking $175 for it.

    By the way, did you get the fuel strainers again? I'm probably going to prioritize the fuel project because I'm afraid that either I'll forget about some of the stuff you figured out, or you'll forget what you learned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyLogic View Post
    I have the same banged up tab. As best I can tell, there are zero J-45747's available online right now. I found one J-39765, but they're asking $175 for it.

    By the way, did you get the fuel strainers again? I'm probably going to prioritize the fuel project because I'm afraid that either I'll forget about some of the stuff you figured out, or you'll forget what you learned.
    From Auto Performance Engineering, I purchased kit 11 (qty 2) which fits my DeatschWerks (9-301-1000) and same suction as GSS 341. I should get these in a couple days. I also purchased the following hoses (2 of each):

    flex hose 8
    flex hose 10
    flex hose 14

    http://apeusa.com/html/kits.html

    They ship really fast. I told them I needed a strainer that has a curved suction port so that the strainer is parallel with the pump - basically pump laying on strainer. The kit includes a sleeve so that should give the pump a little support. It's going to be crowded in there with 2 pumps but it should all fit.

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    Re: pig in slop

    Why didn't you purchase a FS140 strainer instead of the Kit #11? Are you planning on using anything other than the strainer from that kit?

    http://www.amazon.com/Airtex-FS140-F.../dp/B000ZN2AXC
    http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Airtex-FS140...iner-/76975820


    Photo Credit: Frostbite on the LS1Tech Forums ("Twin Tank Walbro Install")


    Photo Credit: Frostbite on the LS1Tech Forums ("Twin Tank Walbro Install")

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    Re: pig in slop

    Take a look:



    Left-to-right...DW300 (DeatschWerks, 9-301-1000), GSS 341 (Walbro 255), FS 140 strainer. Basically, it did not fit my style spare Walbro 255 or my DW300 pumps. The fuel strainer FS 140 fits the GSS 340 style pump suction. I never bothered to check the suction for any differences - I didn't know there were different sizes.

    To answer your question, I looked around for the right style strainer and APE suggested that kit. The prices I was getting on similar style filters were $15-25. With APE's kit, I get a pump sleeve so I can use that to get a get a little space under the pumps - I'll probably have to trim the sleeve a little.

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    Re: pig in slop

    Here's some progress on the trap door:

    The gasket is cut. In the center you can see my garage floor - gas tank is removed.








    I still have to smooth out the edges on the trap door before installation - gonna grind and file the edges. After I punch/drill the holes tomorrow it should be done.

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    Re: pig in slop

    Giggity, giggity...all my fuel stuff finally arrived!



    It's going to be a busy weekend...again
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    My first DW300 arrived last night, along with my Hertz ESK165.5 speakers, DEI Cool Tape, and the RacingBrake two-piece front rotors. Sadly, the eBay seller that I bought the DEI Tunnel Shield II from ($120 versus $130 on Amazon) isn't going to get it here until later next week. So it looks like I'm not going to be pulling the transmission yet. Fortunately, I still have a lot of other stuff to keep me busy.

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    Re: pig in slop

    Finally a fuel lock ring removal tool that actually works! This is the driver side lock ring but is identical to the passenger side where the fuel bucket is located.

    Kent-Moore J-45747 is confirmed!


    Uses a 1/2" drive.






    No more hammer and brass drift/screwdriver. It cost me $75. Again it's Kent-Moore J-45747 and it works perfectly!

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    *sigh* I'm glad that someone finally found the right too, but the only other one available is $170.

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    Re: pig in slop

    I'm considering a write-up on the fuel system mod before i lose all my notes when I'm done I got a lot of ideas from Mighty Mouse & Frostbite's work (LS1tech). This thread is a spin-off for a lot of stuff to write-up.

    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyLogic View Post
    *sigh* I'm glad that someone finally found the right too, but the only other one available is $170.
    I know someone who might be able to make one based on this design - $170 is waaaay too much.

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