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    Re: pig in slop

    Wow, that 8.8 & bracket looks great... definitely car porn

    Fuzzy - what size/where did you get that single bolt holding your upper control arms in?

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    Glad it helped! I'll probably reference it when I do a front Revshift control arm bushing thread. They've been installed for about two weeks now--I was waiting for Revshift to announce them before I posted. By the way, make sure you lubricated the metal sleeve on the upper control arm bushings. If you don't, they'll start squeaking. If you can move the control arms with your hands and don't hear any sound, then you should be good.


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    jclayc--those are two wrenches. See:





    If you're asking me for the part number on the bolt, I unfortunately don't know it.

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    Check it out...all metal contact and tight fit.
    That is awesome.
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    Re: pig in slop

    Quote Originally Posted by philistine View Post
    http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/t404/jaysenbaker/cts-v_misc/2013-09-08101131_zps7ec621be.jpg
    http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/...psc39d77db.jpg

    Check it out...all metal contact and tight fit.
    There are still bushings in there, though, as seen in your 2nd picture here:
    Quote Originally Posted by philistine View Post
    Here's some car porn:

    Those are the bushings that lollygagger was asking about in the thread that Fuzzy linked from ls1tech.com, and those bushings could be replaced by something like the ones he linked here:
    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyLogic View Post
    Correction: none of the products I was referring to fit our cars, but I'll keep looking. Maybe something like this solid aluminum bushing:

    http://www.vintageperformancemotorca...rentialkit.htm
    Assuming the front bushings are normal 8.8" IRS bushings, then aluminum bushings like this should work just fine. There are a number of companies that make them - Full Tilt Boogie Racing, Maximum Motorsports, etc.
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    Re: pig in slop

    Ahh, for some reason I thought it was in reference to the bushing on the old differential - the front that many have replaced. The smaller bracket on the 8.8" clearly has bushings sandwiched in there normal (perpendicular) to where the OEM was on the old differential. Other than that the only bushings left are in the cradle itself where you slide the 2 bolts through to top CS bracket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AAIIIC View Post
    There are still bushings in there, though, as seen in your 2nd picture here:

    Those are the bushings that lollygagger was asking about in the thread that Fuzzy linked from ls1tech.com, and those bushings could be replaced by something like the ones he linked here:

    Assuming the front bushings are normal 8.8" IRS bushings, then aluminum bushings like this should work just fine. There are a number of companies that make them - Full Tilt Boogie Racing, Maximum Motorsports, etc.
    Any idea whether there's an option for the rear bushings on the 8.8 IRS?

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    Re: pig in slop

    A little progress...

    The trapdoor access has been cut. I have the gas tank lifted into position. There is enough room to remove the fuel lines and pull out the bucket. I have to fit the ring removal tool to make sure that works - waiting for that part to come in. Once fitment is confirmed, it's all monkey work fabricating the cover and I have all the parts here to complete that.


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    If you find a ring removal tool that works, let me know. I bought one that was too big and sold it back on eBay a month or two ago.

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    Re: pig in slop

    Quote Originally Posted by jclayc View Post
    Fuzzy - what size/where did you get that single bolt holding your upper control arms in?

    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyLogic View Post
    jclayc--those are two wrenches.
    ^^^This

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    Re: pig in slop

    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyLogic View Post
    If you find a ring removal tool that works, let me know. I bought one that was too big and sold it back on eBay a month or two ago.
    Hammer and screwdriver works great

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    Quote Originally Posted by brngrhd View Post
    Hammer and screwdriver works great
    Not in my experience. You can wreck the ring, even with something fatter like a crowbar and a hammer.

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    Re: pig in slop

    Yeah I'm done with the hammer and screwdriver method - results vary and it wasn't happening for me. Regarding the pem self clinching nuts...no luck. I have a sample piece that I cut out and the metal is just too thin. I drilled and pressed them in perfect without distorting the metal...eventually driving the screw in there spins the self-clinching nut out. My test piece looks like swiss cheese. I took a thicker piece of metal and it clinches perfectly.

    I could dip them in JB weld and possibly get them to stick. The shear strength just isn't high enough with that low contact surface area.




    JB weld test piece:


    Edit: Gonna use a sheet metal punch. My standard drill bits were chewing the thin sheet metal too much. That should solve the problem.

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    Re: pig in slop

    Put some shoes on...
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    Re: pig in slop

    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyLogic View Post
    I thought for a minute there that you were going to buy a sealed, stainless steel trap door for the back seat of the car. I'm in the market for one, should you locate a good one.
    Fuzzy, I don't think you are going to find a pre-fabbed stainless steel trap door. You are still going to have to cut/nibble an access area. I took measurements and made templates. The metal in there is stamped and not flat. After you cut, you have to straighten it out - ding hammer works ok. I'm going with a 1/16" high temp gasket with a 1/2" lip sealing area around the opening. Once I confirm the ring-tool fits then it's drilling holes for the self-clinching nuts (that don't self clinch I should mention).

    I'll make another template of the as-built hole opening and then trace over the stainless steel sheet I have. I'll overlap that trace by 1/2" around the periphery and cut the access door. I'll mark the location of the pem nuts with contact dye and drill the holes in the stainless steel door. What you will see in the end should be a nice piece of stainless steel with a 1/2" fillet on the corners and with screws along the edges fastening it to the frame.

    Once that is all done...sound deadening material the entire backseat area.

    Pic of simple template I made for the hole opening:


    I took some reference measurements where to place the template for tracing to make the cut-out.

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    Re: pig in slop

    I recommend two layers of something like b-quiet, making sure to follow the driveline into the trunk. Then you will find that one layer of Luxury Liner Pro will fit over that. I've still got my back seat out--I want to add a second layer under there, but the seat bottom won't latch with it in place. Thinking about a couple of options, including cutting a 0.25" slit in the foam seat bottom to create a void with which to insert the second layer.

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    Re: pig in slop

    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyLogic View Post
    Any idea whether there's an option for the rear bushings on the 8.8 IRS?
    As installed in a Mustang, yes - those same shops that I mentioned before do all of the various bushings. But those bushings don't apply when installing the 8.8" into our cradle.
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