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2004-2007 Cadillac CTS-V Performance Mods Discussion, SHIFTER: Dissecting, and fixing the CTS-V's shifter... in Cadillac CTS-V Series Forum - 2004 - 2007; Im rarely on here anymore as the v is long gone. Its interesting to see where things have gone. I ...
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    Im rarely on here anymore as the v is long gone. Its interesting to see where things have gone. I will blow my own horn.
    I supplied the first shifter to UUC to make the first replacement. It needed all of the help it coiuld get. I also created the first urethane bushing kit for the crappy shifter including the front bushings. I ha s a shoulder bole in the shifter handle though.

    Also made the first door lock lifts, radio knobs and gage pods in the ash tray. I was busy back in 2004. Nice to see everyone enjoying all of this stuff.

    On the shifter, what I did was a band aid that made a micky mouse remote shifter better! Its became a better bad shifter. What was needed was a trans with a tailshaft that fit the car! But a bigger issue that that is the early differential but thats another story. Good luck all..

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    Re: SHIFTER: Dissecting, and fixing the CTS-V's shifter...

    Quote Originally Posted by PISNUOFF View Post
    Try dynamat first.
    Seriously. That is what this thing needs.

    So I cut my shift lever/stalk again, racked the rubber/goober part back onto the upper lever the slid that back down over the lower -basically putting it back to stock (just the shift lever portion. Result? That solved the noise issue completely. THe only remaining noises are driveline chuck or whip, is pretty noticeable when depressing the clutch quickly, and the shifter knob rattles -which it always has. So I believe that the two piece shift lever solves the noise issue. At what expense? Not too much. The quality of the shifting feel is still about the same. The accuracy, precision feeling to it is still there, and there is still no play or slop in the system. There IS, of course, compliance in the rubber in the shifter, so once it's in a gear, you can force the shift lever to bend or deflect some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lasstss View Post
    It became a better bad shifter.
    Yep. That is what is going on here too, for the most part. The shifter is a total piece of crap. I've made it way better, but in principle, it still sucks. The goal (not my goal in this thread) is to manipulate the internal shift rail. The fewer number of parts and joints you have between your hand, and that internal shift rail, the better. The V probably has 20 pieces between your hand and that rail. It's a joke.

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    Re: SHIFTER: Dissecting, and fixing the CTS-V's shifter...

    So now I've gone and busted into the shift KNOB. Not including the two pices of "leather", the shift KNOB, is made out of 5 pieces of junk!! I don't know what others think, but in MY mind a shift knob is one piece, w/a cover and maybe separate shift pattern. 5 pieces! Here are 4 of them (shift pattern didn't make it into the pic)



    So, the shift knob rattles b/c the part in the middle there, is loose fitting inside the actual molded handle. It is hard plastic and of course the handle is hard plastic too, so the handle moves around like a "bobble head" on the center piece. I whipped up some epoxy and turned the whole thing into one solid unit. Put the leather back on and it's setting up now.

    The Mythbusters proved that you CAN, polish a turd! So I am proving it too!

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    Re: SHIFTER: Dissecting, and fixing the CTS-V's shifter...

    Good job Tom, I like it and will use your ideas on mine thanks!!!

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    Re: SHIFTER: Dissecting, and fixing the CTS-V's shifter...

    Quote Originally Posted by HAMSTAR View Post
    ^ offer something up. I will buy it, as will others.

    Great work.
    I'm trying to resurrect this thread because we have forum members who have the talent and the desire to offer us quality products. In my feeble mind, this project makes a lot of sense! Feedback/encouragement is appreciated!
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    Re: SHIFTER: Dissecting, and fixing the CTS-V's shifter...

    UPDATE: It was a good improvement, but much better craftsmanship would have to be used to make it last. The glue I used to glue the upper shifter to the lower, keeps failing. I've glued the thing at least 4 times.

    The guide pin broke off during some very aggressive shifting, which eliminated much of that "precision mechanical" feel. It still shifts good, and much better than it did before (before you couldn't even get it in first or reverse 1/2 the time), but over all, I think the BEST solution to this problem is to reduce the number of parts in the system. I "polished a turd"; I MADE the shitty stock shifter "feel good", by giving the actual shift lever a guide. But it's still a mess.

    I wouldn't put any more effort into my version of this shifter (improving what I did). If I pursue this further, what I plan to do is remove and lengthen the internal shift rail, and then attache the shift lever directly to that, through a precision universal joint and shaft, very much like the shifter in the C4, ZF6 transmission.


    Less parts, stronger parts, it's the right way to have a good, strong interface w/the transmission, I feel. That is the way to go, IMO.

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    Re: SHIFTER: Dissecting, and fixing the CTS-V's shifter...

    Based on your lead, I welded tabs (not tubing) to my shifter base, bolted it to the transmission, ditched the gate option but went one further by modifying the shift linkage to capture both sides of the shift shaft coming out of the transmission so that it looks like a hurried but functional version of the linkage outlined in the link below...

    http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums...ul-thread.html

    With all this in combination with a 54 shifter, My car shifts comparably well to any massed produced car I've ever owned. Could it be better, sure I guess but it is what it is....a massed produced GM vehicle.

    While the route you're proposing seems fascinating to some degree, I can't imagine what a pain in the axx that would be. FuzzyLogic suggested that Tremec will be introducing a new MagnumXL that will have an extended shift rail/tailshaft which would be ideal...

    http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums...-2014-a-2.html

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    Re: SHIFTER: Dissecting, and fixing the CTS-V's shifter...

    Quote Originally Posted by ctsv247 View Post
    ...I welded tabs (not tubing) to my shifter base, bolted it to the transmission...
    I'd like to see how you did that. Got any pictures?

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