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2004-2007 Cadillac CTS-V Performance Mods Discussion, Cone air filter in Cadillac CTS-V Series Forum - 2004 - 2007; I have the Volant setup (which I like) but I wanted to see if anyone has ever changed out the ...
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    Cone air filter

    I have the Volant setup (which I like) but I wanted to see if anyone has ever changed out the air filter that comes with it to one with one of those inverted cone filters in the end of it.

    Like this......



    Where can I get one that'll fit my volant kit?

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    Re: Cone air filter

    Nobody??

    I even emailed Volant, still no response.

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    Re: Cone air filter

    We have a pact of silence.

    What's the supposed benefit of such a filter?

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    Re: Cone air filter

    Shane, when you doing the Procharger?
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    Re: Cone air filter

    Quote Originally Posted by rand49er View Post
    Shane, when you doing the Procharger?
    When I decide who I can trust to either help me, or I'm confident enough I can pull it off.

    I think for once in my life I need to not be cheap and instead of figuring it out myself, just drop it off somewhere and have someone do it lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAMSTAR View Post
    We have a pact of silence.

    What's the supposed benefit of such a filter?
    I don't know if it would help to be honest. It just seems like the plastic lid on it is right where the air comes in at, and if the filter end was open, it would draw air much more directly/efficiently.

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    Re: Cone air filter

    Can't say the thought hasn't come up but my Volant is about 2 months old so it's not a top priority.

    http://www.volant.com/edetail.asp?Pa...&ID=56&ptype=f

    Flange 6.00
    Base 7.50
    Top 4.75
    Height 5.00

    I looked up K&N alternatives, majority of their universal lineup that matches the measurements also have the top closed. Might be able to squeeze a longer filter than the stock Volant if you really wanted to.

    http://www.knfilters.com/universal/universal.htm

    At the end of the day I can't say what additional gains you may get. I had a 4" DYI intake before the Volant with a bigger filter. It felt great at the top end but slightly slower to pick up on the low end. When I put the Volant on, it felt more balanced throughout the powerband.

    I'd be more interested in mocking up some type of velocity stack or duct to the intake box so it channels in the cold air directly from the grill kind of like the brake ducts do for the brakes. This could also cause faster wear of the filter and additional debris reducing the life of the filters. Might be the reason why it is the way it is.

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    Re: Cone air filter

    Quote Originally Posted by KaMaSuTrA View Post
    Can't say the thought hasn't come up but my Volant is about 2 months old so it's not a top priority.

    http://www.volant.com/edetail.asp?Pa...&ID=56&ptype=f

    Flange 6.00
    Base 7.50
    Top 4.75
    Height 5.00

    I looked up K&N alternatives, majority of their universal lineup that matches the measurements also have the top closed. Might be able to squeeze a longer filter than the stock Volant if you really wanted to.

    http://www.knfilters.com/universal/universal.htm

    At the end of the day I can't say what additional gains you may get. I had a 4" DYI intake before the Volant with a bigger filter. It felt great at the top end but slightly slower to pick up on the low end. When I put the Volant on, it felt more balanced throughout the powerband.

    I'd be more interested in mocking up some type of velocity stack or duct to the intake box so it channels in the cold air directly from the grill kind of like the brake ducts do for the brakes. This could also cause faster wear of the filter and additional debris reducing the life of the filters. Might be the reason why it is the way it is.
    Thanks for the actual filter link boss.

    I emailed them again asking.

    Those inverted cones have to work better than the plastic lids or they would've never made them.

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    Sunuva.....


    from Volant....



    I’m sorry but we do not carry an inverted cone filter in that size

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    Re: Cone air filter

    Back in the day I had a ram air scoop on my '96 Impala SS. It came with a giant inverted cone S&B "Power Stack" filter that I used for over 100k miles with no issues.
    They are still available at places like:
    http://www.verociousmotorsports.com/...ter-Rubber-Cap

    For the same length filter you do get a bit more usable area, but I doubt there is any real noticeable difference in flow as long as you choose a big one to start with. It made sense in the ram air setup as air was directed straight at the end of the filter. However, with the Volant housing and a large filter in there I'm not sure how much airflow is aimed directly at the end of the filter. Honestly I have the Volant setup and I'm not sure where the majority of the airflow is coming from because it sort of just sits behind the headlight assembly.

    -PJ

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    Re: Cone air filter

    I have done it on my Tahoe. Gave me a couple ponies more.

    I also custom ordered one from Volant for my caddy. Very cute little filter. The regular ones are just as good for normal setups, but my setup is a little over the top...

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    S&b filters should carry an inverted cone that size. Great filters I've used them for years. On my phone so I'm not sure the web address but you can find the site pretty easily. Cheaper than k&n usually.


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    Re: Cone air filter

    I wonder if one of those extra tube type of intakes could be fabbed and/or would be helpful....



    http://www.autoanything.com/air-inta...FfBcMgodcjgA_w

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    Re: Cone air filter

    I just got this back from Volant:


    We recommend leaving the cover in place to allow the coldest are possible into the system. Switching to a inverted cone filter will not increase the CFM of the intake but you can check K&N and see if they can build you one



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