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    Re: Creative Steel WIDE WHEEL TRAILING ARMS

    Yeah just got mine today too...pretty badass!

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    Mine arrived as well.

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    Re: Creative Steel WIDE WHEEL TRAILING ARMS

    I posted this on LS1tech and in the general section with my "pig in slop" mega do everything and lots of trial/error and bolt on stuff thread.

    Creative Steel Trailing Arms came in. You only need 4 spacers, I got an extra pack.





    Here's a comparison:


    The OEM bushing came out in about 1-2 minutes. Spray it with PB Blaster and push it out with a screwdriver.


    They look pretty good installed:


    Notice the spacers top and bottom, torque to 66[ft-lb]


    Torque this one to 129 [ft-lb]. Notice the bushings are not squished and bulged.



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    Re: Creative Steel WIDE WHEEL TRAILING ARMS

    I got mine on Thursday and they will be installed Monday. Looking forward to driving!

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    I'm beginning to realize I need to drop the cradle to get to and remove the forward most bolt. Has anyone had luck any other way? Otherwise looks like ill be continuing bright and early.

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    Re: Creative Steel WIDE WHEEL TRAILING ARMS

    Quote Originally Posted by Manofmetal01 View Post
    I'm beginning to realize I need to drop the cradle to get to and remove the forward most bolt. Has anyone had luck any other way? Otherwise looks like ill be continuing bright and early.
    I don't remember who it was, or if they're even on the forums anymore, but I remember one knucklehead cut holes from above so he could access the bolts.

    And the bolts are long enough that you can't feed them in from the bottom when you put things back together - the extra length above the subframe will contact the frame rail above it.
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    Re: Creative Steel WIDE WHEEL TRAILING ARMS

    Quote Originally Posted by Manofmetal01 View Post
    I'm beginning to realize I need to drop the cradle to get to and remove the forward most bolt. Has anyone had luck any other way? Otherwise looks like ill be continuing bright and early.[COLOR="Silver"]
    You should be able to disconnect the shock, jack the body of the vehicle up, loosen the rear sub-frame bolts a ways but still have them in, and then take out the front sub-frame bolts. The cradle should come down enough to get the front trailing arm bolt out.
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    Yes, I found an old MAPerformance thread for installing trailing arms, shouldn't be too much hassle at all.

    Also read of guys cutting down that bolt and installing it from the bottom...in my industry, you never install a bolt from the bottom.

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    How about removal of the bushing without removing the control arm? That's where I'm at now and its getting frustrating haha

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    Re: Creative Steel WIDE WHEEL TRAILING ARMS

    Which bushing? The one that's in the bottom of the rear knuckle? It's very squishy, comes out pretty easily - I just used a bigass C-clamp to push it out.
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    Ill try that, it would be easier if I was off the ground more. I'm not a small person by any means

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    Did you remove the rotor to do this, that'll probably make my life easier!

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    Re: Creative Steel WIDE WHEEL TRAILING ARMS

    I just got my trailing arms and toe rods in the V and noticed an immediate benefit in the way the chassis responds to bumps in a turn...the rearend stays much more planted so the shocks can do the work. I'm looking forward to driving on my favorite twisty roads to feel the full effect.

    The workmanship and design is very well done!

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    Re: Creative Steel WIDE WHEEL TRAILING ARMS

    Quote Originally Posted by Manofmetal01 View Post
    Did you remove the rotor to do this, that'll probably make my life easier!
    I'm pretty sure that I did remove the rotor. I used the big C-clamp, and then had a chunk of exhaust piping or something like that as a receiver for the bushing to be pushed into.

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    I ended up just drilling two holes through the rubber and then putting a vise grip on the sleeve and twisting it out. Pretty easy. Need to do some more driving now!

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    Re: Creative Steel WIDE WHEEL TRAILING ARMS

    Driving Feedback, trailing arms & toe rods: in 20 - 50mph twisty roads the rear is much more planted, less sideways shifting in the rear, I feel more of the vertical suspension travel when I accelerate out of the turns I feel more of the squatting of the rear...I have 64k miles on the stock trailing arms and toe rods so assuming I'm feeling a lot of the new bushing benefit. On high speed 60 - 80mph long steady carving turns when I turn-in the rear now feels much more confident in the way it carves with the front of the car....whereas before it felt like the rear was ever so slightly disconnected and I had to do slight steering inputs to keep the rear on-line. In an 80mph turn with a bump in the middle the rear just goes vertically up and down versus it used to go slightly diagonal so I'd have to catch a little with steering input. I went out after heavy rains so didn't want to push the cornering g's too much...I look forward to getting out in the dry to push the limits & feel if recovering from a slide will be easier.

    Overall this is a great improvement!! Much more confidence inspiring to push toward the limit and much more solid feel in the rear. Only thing is now with more clearance at the backside of rear wheels...I'm tempted to order wider rims/tires!! I already have 9.5" ccw sp600's with hankook rs-3 275's I want to stuff wider tires up front.

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    What greaseis recommended for these and the tie rods? Do the ballistic joints need a different grease or everything the same?

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