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2004-2007 Cadillac CTS-V Performance Mods Discussion, Twin Turbo Kit for V1 in Cadillac CTS-V Series Forum - 2004 - 2007; Originally Posted by Jsmitty02z28 That is a good idea and would cut cost down significantly. However we are trying to ...
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    Re: Twin Turbo Kit for V1

    Quote Originally Posted by Jsmitty02z28 View Post
    That is a good idea and would cut cost down significantly. However we are trying to supply a whole kit. If you want different turbos you can send us the turbos with the deposit when that time comes and we can match the flanges to the turbos. But the base kit would be made for twin GT30.


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    I believe what he is saying is that sourcing the turbos is the easy part. It would naturally make sense to buy them from you guys, but the point he was making was that fabbing up the piping, intercooler locator brackets, etc. -- if you guys could do all that so it was truly bolt-in, that would be very well received.

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    Ill talk to Louis. If everybody agrees this us what they want then that's what we will do.

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    Re: Twin Turbo Kit for V1

    Quote Originally Posted by HAMSTAR View Post
    I believe what he is saying is that sourcing the turbos is the easy part. It would naturally make sense to buy them from you guys, but the point he was making was that fabbing up the piping, intercooler locator brackets, etc. -- if you guys could do all that so it was truly bolt-in, that would be very well received.
    No doubt that sourcing the turbos is the easy part. After all anyone with laptop and telephone can become a dealer and drop ship those. It also probably the most profitable part. If I were the seller, I would not want to provide the "kit" which involves the most R&D, the most work, and the lowest margin while others with no real investment in the market development "cherry picked" the most profitable component of the package.

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    Re: Twin Turbo Kit for V1

    Quote Originally Posted by darkman View Post
    No doubt that sourcing the turbos is the easy part. After all anyone with laptop and telephone can become a dealer and drop ship those. It also probably the most profitable part. If I were the seller, I would not want to provide the "kit" which involves the most R&D, the most work, and the lowest margin while others with no real investment in the market development "cherry picked" the most profitable component of the package.
    That depends upon how much the customer is willing to pay for pre-fabbed components. The most costly investment for such things, as you said, is time and effort, especially since the most difficult part is reproducibility. The raw materials for things like the piping are relatively inexpensive, especially when compared to turbos. As such, depending upon how much a person is willing to pay, such components could be profitable. If they have the facility and ability, once they create the first working kit (if measurements are properly documented), each subsequent kit will be easier (not necessarily easy, just not as hard) to make based off the plans. It is at that point that it will become profitable. However, the kink in all of this is that there must be a market in order for such a system to be profitable. Only around 10,000 V1's were made. One must consider how many owners out of those remaining would desire such a kit. Then one must consider how many can afford one. Then you have to think about how many just won't hear about it. The numbers of kits they could eventually sell could be quite low indeed. It's a legitimate risk to embark on such an endeavor, and if including turbos offsets the costs of time and effort, then they should. I wasn't really viewing the issue through profitability in my previous post. I should have. But my real point was that the true service they could offer would be the fabrication and routing of the piping and such.

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    Re: Twin Turbo Kit for V1

    Quote Originally Posted by VincentT View Post
    That depends upon how much the customer is willing to pay for pre-fabbed components. The most costly investment for such things, as you said, is time and effort, especially since the most difficult part is reproducibility. The raw materials for things like the piping are relatively inexpensive, especially when compared to turbos. As such, depending upon how much a person is willing to pay, such components could be profitable. If they have the facility and ability, once they create the first working kit (if measurements are properly documented), each subsequent kit will be easier (not necessarily easy, just not as hard) to make based off the plans. It is at that point that it will become profitable. However, the kink in all of this is that there must be a market in order for such a system to be profitable. Only around 10,000 V1's were made. One must consider how many owners out of those remaining would desire such a kit. Then one must consider how many can afford one. Then you have to think about how many just won't hear about it. The numbers of kits they could eventually sell could be quite low indeed. It's a legitimate risk to embark on such an endeavor, and if including turbos offsets the costs of time and effort, then they should. I wasn't really viewing the issue through profitability in my previous post. I should have. But my real point was that the true service they could offer would be the fabrication and routing of the piping and such.
    I agree.

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    Im single, work in the canadian oil patch 2/3 of the year. I can and will afford this kit if it happens and is compatible with aftermarket headers. Make it a reality!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VincentT View Post
    That depends upon how much the customer is willing to pay for pre-fabbed components. The most costly investment for such things, as you said, is time and effort, especially since the most difficult part is reproducibility. The raw materials for things like the piping are relatively inexpensive, especially when compared to turbos. As such, depending upon how much a person is willing to pay, such components could be profitable. If they have the facility and ability, once they create the first working kit (if measurements are properly documented), each subsequent kit will be easier (not necessarily easy, just not as hard) to make based off the plans. It is at that point that it will become profitable. However, the kink in all of this is that there must be a market in order for such a system to be profitable. Only around 10,000 V1's were made. One must consider how many owners out of those remaining would desire such a kit. Then one must consider how many can afford one. Then you have to think about how many just won't hear about it. The numbers of kits they could eventually sell could be quite low indeed. It's a legitimate risk to embark on such an endeavor, and if including turbos offsets the costs of time and effort, then they should. I wasn't really viewing the issue through profitability in my previous post. I should have. But my real point was that the true service they could offer would be the fabrication and routing of the piping and such.
    Well said. We have considered the fact that there aren't very many people still interested in modding V1s. However we are trying to find the 4-5 people that want to and are interested in doing a twin kit for this car. Routing the pipe and fabricating everything is what we do. A kit like this could take 30 days or 6 months it just depends on the interest. I came up with the idea because I too want to twin turbo my V. Either way it's getting done I just thought it would be nice to make more of them and offer them to people who want it.

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    Re: Twin Turbo Kit for V1

    Quote Originally Posted by Manofmetal01 View Post
    Im single, work in the canadian oil patch 2/3 of the year. I can and will afford this kit if it happens and is compatible with aftermarket headers. Make it a reality!
    You guys should be hoping that it does not work with headers. They won't make any more power than manifolds and you can sell them to cut down on the cost of the kit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimmyC View Post
    You guys should be hoping that it does not work with headers. They won't make any more power than manifolds and you can sell them to cut down on the cost of the kit.
    People make 1300HP on stock manifolds. Using a header isn't necessary. Our kit will use stock manifolds therefore you can take your kooks or any aftermarket header and sale them to help with cost of the turbo build. It's a win win for everybody.

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    I like the sound provided by my long tubes. Count me out if we have to revert back. Not to mention i sold my stock exhaust and manifolds to save on my aftermarket setup. Ill give my money to edelbrock and g&g on the tvs kit theyre working on.

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    Re: Twin Turbo Kit for V1

    I'm interested in a TT kit, will comment later when you have more details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manofmetal01 View Post
    I like the sound provided by my long tubes. Count me out if we have to revert back. Not to mention i sold my stock exhaust and manifolds to save on my aftermarket setup. Ill give my money to edelbrock and g&g on the tvs kit theyre working on.
    The sound of longtubes is irrelevant when turbos are added.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Manofmetal01 View Post
    I like the sound provided by my long tubes. Count me out if we have to revert back. Not to mention i sold my stock exhaust and manifolds to save on my aftermarket setup. Ill give my money to edelbrock and g&g on the tvs kit theyre working on.
    I'm not sure what Edelbrock kit you are referring to but I haven't seen one that produces the same numbers we are expecting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by philistine View Post
    I'm interested in a TT kit, will comment later when you have more details.
    Thank you sir we will have more details to come.

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    Using a header will force us to push the turbos further back not allowing for as much ground clearance. By using the placement of the cat we are allowing for more ground clearance for lowered cars.


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