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2004-2007 Cadillac CTS-V Performance Mods Discussion, Getting an 04 v with a bad motor. Going with a 6.2 stroked!!!!!!! in Cadillac CTS-V Series Forum - 2004 - 2007; Originally Posted by RyRidesMotoX Well Livernois Motlrsports can. They even sell a bored shortblock for that application. The whole point ...
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    Re: Getting an 04 v with a bad motor. Going with a 6.2 stroked!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by RyRidesMotoX View Post
    Well Livernois Motlrsports can. They even sell a bored shortblock for that application. The whole point I was trying to make is... There are better ways of yanking performance out of the motor, and that was the point the rest of the guys were going as well I think. Stroking a motor, in my opinion, is more problematic than boring it, sleeving it, and throwing a balanced rotating assembly to spin it fast. So yea, I'm not trying to be a dick or anything... Here is a link to Livernoi's website with the LS3 429... Its a little bigger than 427 Cruz the bore is 4.130 http://www.livernoismotorsports.com/....7%3A1%29.html
    I didnt take it as you being a dick. I am open to all suggestions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by av8erdunn View Post

    I didnt take it as you being a dick. I am open to all suggestions.
    Cool... Sometimes I don't even realize I'm being a dick to people. My girlfriend bitches at me all the time about it. You know there is no shame in doing a stock 6.2 displacement with a nice forged lower end and a big Eaton TVS on it.

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    Re: Getting an 04 v with a bad motor. Going with a 6.2 stroked!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by RyRidesMotoX View Post
    Cool... Sometimes I don't even realize I'm being a dick to people. My girlfriend bitches at me all the time about it. You know there is no shame in doing a stock 6.2 displacement with a nice forged lower end and a big Eaton TVS on it.
    If I was going that route, wouldnt I be in it close to the same price as if I had went with the 418?

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    Quote Originally Posted by av8erdunn View Post
    If I was going that route, wouldnt I be in it close to the same price as if I had went with the 418?
    Yea but why go with a 418 instead of a tvs for similar price? Even a take off tvs from a ZL or ZR 1 is fairly reasonably priced. if it was between doing a stroker build and a supercharger, I would go forced induction every time, that's just my opinion tough... everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

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    Ok lemme start from square one just to make sure I am properly following what you are saying so just to clarify...

    You have a 6.2 out of a denali going in the V. Is the motor complete? If so, in your first post, you said you will be getting L92 heads. Now I am probably mistaken but doesn't the vortec 6200 already have L92 heads? Also if you are going to not use the pistons, you might as well sell the kit and get something you really want. If you buy new pistons and then sell the ones you aren't using, it isn't going to net you as much money as selling the whole kit as one set. And I'm not sure why you don't want to use a 4.125 inch bore, as far as I have seen and heard, it is safe to do. The issue most here are having, is the machining necessary on the bottom end of the block to properly clearance it for a significantly larger stroke. Also have you confirmed that the 6.2 is usable? What kind if damage has been done to it, if any? That makes a huge difference on whether to do a whole build on it or not. If it runs, sell the rotating assembly and then machine the heads and toss in a nice cam with the money and leave the bottom for now. That would be ideal. Heck you could come out with extra cash that way. If the 6.2 doesn't run, then that's a horse of a while different color.

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    Re: Getting an 04 v with a bad motor. Going with a 6.2 stroked!!!!!!!

    Did the 6.2 Denali also get an aluminum block or is this iron?

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlson_mn View Post
    Did the 6.2 Denali also get an aluminum block or is this iron?
    From what I understand any "Vortec" engine is iron block aluminum heads. So the denali motor is probably an iron block.

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    Re: Getting an 04 v with a bad motor. Going with a 6.2 stroked!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by RyRidesMotoX View Post
    Yea but why go with a 418 instead of a tvs for similar price? Even a take off tvs from a ZL or ZR 1 is fairly reasonably priced. if it was between doing a stroker build and a supercharger, I would go forced induction every time, that's just my opinion tough... everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

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    Ok lemme start from square one just to make sure I am properly following what you are saying so just to clarify...

    You have a 6.2 out of a denali going in the V. Is the motor complete? If so, in your first post, you said you will be getting L92 heads. Now I am probably mistaken but doesn't the vortec 6200 already have L92 heads? Also if you are going to not use the pistons, you might as well sell the kit and get something you really want. If you buy new pistons and then sell the ones you aren't using, it isn't going to net you as much money as selling the whole kit as one set. And I'm not sure why you don't want to use a 4.125 inch bore, as far as I have seen and heard, it is safe to do. The issue most here are having, is the machining necessary on the bottom end of the block to properly clearance it for a significantly larger stroke. Also have you confirmed that the 6.2 is usable? What kind if damage has been done to it, if any? That makes a huge difference on whether to do a whole build on it or not. If it runs, sell the rotating assembly and then machine the heads and toss in a nice cam with the money and leave the bottom for now. That would be ideal. Heck you could come out with extra cash that way. If the 6.2 doesn't run, then that's a horse of a while different color.
    OK sorry for the delayed response as its been hectic around here lately. I actually got the car and found it to have a broken valve spring. It didn't do any damage, I bore scoped it and the piston is fine and parts will be here on Friday to fix it. As for the 6.2, its basicly a new motor; its got less than15k on the motor. I finally got the kit home and tore into it. The new crank is a 4.125 and the pistons are 4.065. Since the motor in the car is going to be OK I am going to take my time building this engine since there is no longer an urgency to get back on the road.

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