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2004-2007 Cadillac CTS-V Performance Mods Discussion, Mod V1 or trade up for V2? in Cadillac CTS-V Series Forum - 2004 - 2007; Do the V2's have a robust drivetrain? I'm just wondering the economics of purchasing the CS mod for a V1. ...
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    Mod V1 or trade up for V2?

    Do the V2's have a robust drivetrain? I'm just wondering the economics of purchasing the CS mod for a V1. I would kick myself if I got a V2 only to find out I needed to replace the differential etc. This mod sounds great but my wife's voice of reason says...just trade up for a V2, problem solved! I like my 2004 but I hate to throw away $ if it doesn't make sense. This is almost the price of a SC...then add the SC and you're in $12k - cheap.

    The resale is plummeting on the V1's - difficult to decide on expensive mods. Any constructive discussion would be appreciated as I'm on the fence.

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    Re: Mod V1 or trade up for V2?

    trade up and mod the V2
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    Re: Mod V1 or trade up for V2?

    I agree, ditch the V1 and get the V2...Better seats, newer tech and more power to be harnessed at a lower price...

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    Re: Mod V1 or trade up for V2?

    If you are going to get a V2 wait until the V3 is on the lots of dealerships. People will be selling the V2 for nothing or trading them in. I bet you could get one for mid 30s when the next gen comes out.

    Personally I am gonna stay with the V1 because I like the look a little better, its lighter, and I can do whatever I want with it once is paid off in a year or 2. I wouldn't have a V2 paid off for a while cuz I dont have a money tree in the back yard.
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    Re: Mod V1 or trade up for V2?

    The whole premise assumes modding is a logical endeavor. It's not.

    Having said that, the thing to do is sell the V1 before the V3 comes out. As stated above, the prices of V2s are going to drop when the V3 comes out, and the V1 prices will be squeezed down, too, as a result. Sell the V1 now, bank the money, buy a cheap DD, then jump on a V2 or a V3 when they come out and dump the DD for minimal loss.

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    Re: Mod V1 or trade up for V2?

    As much as I love my V1, if it was financially possible and my wife was suggesting it, I'd probably go for the V2.

    I thought I'd keep my V1 forever, but as it approaches 10 years old, I see a lot more routine maintenance on the horizon than mods.

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    I like the look of the V1 better but that is purely subjective. Objectively the V2 is better in almost every aspect. Power - the V2 is much better starting point, more displacement and designed for FI. Ergonomics - the V1 was behind the curve when released and now a decade later it is very dated. Braking - larger rotors, six piston calipers. Handling - this is the only real toss up for me. The mag shocks are great but are they enough for what you want to do with the car and/or what is the real cost to mod.

    You know all this stuff anyway but about a year ago I was trying to make a similar make/buy decision and it came down to the fact that I wanted to "make" something uniquely mine. If I bought the V2 I wasn't going to have the cash to mod it and I still really like the V1. So for me it all came down to the desire to check off building a performance car before I kick the bucket.

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    Re: Mod V1 or trade up for V2?

    i'd keep the V1 and mod it for track/autoX only, then pick up a V2 or a C6 as a daily.

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    Re: Mod V1 or trade up for V2?

    Quote Originally Posted by sssnake View Post
    . You know all this stuff anyway but about a year ago I was trying to make a similar make/buy decision and it came down to the fact that I wanted to "make" something uniquely mine. If I bought the V2 I wasn't going to have the cash to mod it and I still really like the V1. So for me it all came down to the desire to check off building a performance car before I kick the bucket.
    I know exactly what you mean. I just finished a different project car that took me 4 months to complete and the tuning is now finally done - it's an amazing feeling!

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    Re: Mod V1 or trade up for V2?

    The wife is saying to get a V2 and you are resisting. I am still trying to picture this scenario.....
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    Re: Mod V1 or trade up for V2?

    Having only owned my 04 for right at a year, and still loving it, it would probably be cheaper to do routine maintenance and mod it if paid for. I love the thought of owning a V2 sport wagon bad, but you know what they say "Cheaper to keep her"!

    Some day I hope to keep my first/current one for fun and drive a new one as my DD! Wife just doesn't know it yet!

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    Re: Mod V1 or trade up for V2?

    As the work begins on my weld in 4 point roll bar tomorrow, the decision has been officially made to stick with the V1 for me. That said, even having spent about as much in mods on my car as my purchase price, I'm still under what V2s are going for. Plus I've been enjoying (and cursing at times) the car for 5 years now.

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    Re: Mod V1 or trade up for V2?

    Quote Originally Posted by UnsafeAtAnySpd View Post
    As the work begins on my weld in 4 point roll bar tomorrow, the decision has been officially made to stick with the V1 for me. That said, even having spent about as much in mods on my car as my purchase price, I'm still under what V2s are going for. Plus I've been enjoying (and cursing at times) the car for 5 years now.
    There is one thing I would rather have more than a V2...Edelbrock E-force in my V1. I know there are some dedicated members pioneering for the rest of us and it has not gone unnoticed! It is a mystery why that company doesn't make a kit. Old and new imports have a laundry list of options with detailed instructions...the V1 has so few.

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    Re: Mod V1 or trade up for V2?

    Quote Originally Posted by philistine View Post
    There is one thing I would rather have more than a V2...Edelbrock E-force in my V1. I know there are some dedicated members pioneering for the rest of us and it has not gone unnoticed! It is a mystery why that company doesn't make a kit. Old and new imports have a laundry list of options with detailed instructions...the V1 has so few.
    I'm in the process of getting the parts together to do this, it doesn't seem like there is much customization needed to make the E-force work
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    Re: Mod V1 or trade up for V2?

    I did both

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