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2004-2007 Cadillac CTS-V Performance Mods Discussion, Installed Pacesetter Headers in Cadillac CTS-V Series Forum - 2004 - 2007; First off, I apologize for not jumping on the OBX bandwagon. I went with the pacesetter coated longtubes on the ...
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    Installed Pacesetter Headers

    First off, I apologize for not jumping on the OBX bandwagon. I went with the pacesetter coated longtubes on the V. I must say, this was a much more labor-intensive job than I every predicted it to be. I also went ahead and installed new NGK TR55 plugs and MSD wires. I wanted something that would bolt directly up to my B&B catback without cutting it up. I ordered the headers and flanges from amazon.com. They classified for supersaver (free) shipping, so I got them both for $448 shipped to my door. I spent a little extra for the header wrap and silicone spray. I know they are ceramic and I didnt really need to wrap them, but I would rather see header wrap than discolored ceramic headers. I plan on deciding on a cam in the near future, and will wait to tune and dyno until the cam is installed. Not much to see, but here are the pics: (Sorry, no pre-install pics)









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    Re: Installed Pacesetter Headers

    Congrats on the install, I bet a lot of that time was getting the headers and cat back lined up etc. Also you might want to at least grab a wait4me PCM for $160 until you get your cam installed and dyno tuned. Without a tune you aren't going to be running very good unless of course your "near future" is very near future.

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    Re: Installed Pacesetter Headers

    Quote Originally Posted by CancerJCC View Post
    Congrats on the install, I bet a lot of that time was getting the headers and cat back lined up etc. Also you might want to at least grab a wait4me PCM for $160 until you get your cam installed and dyno tuned. Without a tune you aren't going to be running very good unless of course your "near future" is very near future.
    Yeah, turns out the slip-on flanges arent quite so "slip-on". Luckily I had an exhaust pipe expander in the garage. I just stretched it out a bit more so that it would slip over. Once that was finished it was just a matter of tapping the flanges with a hammer to rotate them into place. I also spent a good 15 mintutes wiggling the exhaust around to get it to align correctly. Other than that, I also spent a lot of time getting the plug wires off. Sounds strange but they were really stuck on there. When it got down to the last 2 or 3, I started holding the boot with a pair of needle nose pliars and prying against them with a long screw driver. There was just a lot of little tedious inconviniences that happened along the way.

    As for the tune, I hope to get the cam in with my tax return. Seeing as how indiana is covered in 3" of ice and my driveway is at a 30 degree incline, the V will not be leaving the garage for a while. If the ice does melt and I decide to take it out, the pcm should correct itself a little bit...not perfect but will do until I can get the cam in.

    On a side note, these are my first wrapped headers. Has anyone else experienced the nasty smoke that comes from either the wrap or the silicone spray on initial start up? I'm hoping this will go away after the first drive.

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    Re: Installed Pacesetter Headers

    Quote Originally Posted by CI-V-IL View Post
    First off, I apologize for not jumping on the OBX bandwagon. I went with the pacesetter coated longtubes on the V. I must say, this was a much more labor-intensive job than I every predicted it to be. I also went ahead and installed new NGK TR55 plugs and MSD wires. I wanted something that would bolt directly up to my B&B catback without cutting it up. I ordered the headers and flanges from amazon.com. They classified for supersaver (free) shipping, so I got them both for $448 shipped to my door. I spent a little extra for the header wrap and silicone spray. I know they are ceramic and I didnt really need to wrap them, but I would rather see header wrap than discolored ceramic headers. I plan on deciding on a cam in the near future, and will wait to tune and dyno until the cam is installed. Not much to see, but here are the pics: (Sorry, no pre-install pics)
    Congrats on the install!! It'll be great to compare our cars when we get together for the Indy meet in April!! I'm running a Thunder Racing LS2 CheaTR cam and I'll have my B&B headers and exhaust installed and get a tune from Jesse at Wait4me this month. We'll have very similar setups!

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    Re: Installed Pacesetter Headers

    Quote Originally Posted by V-Guy View Post
    Congrats on the install!! It'll be great to compare our cars when we get together for the Indy meet in April!! I'm running a Thunder Racing LS2 CheaTR cam and I'll have my B&B headers and exhaust installed and get a tune from Jesse at Wait4me this month. We'll have very similar setups!
    Did you decide on the resonator or x-pipe? I love this B&B exhaust, I just wish it was a little louder!

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    Re: Installed Pacesetter Headers

    Quote Originally Posted by CI-V-IL View Post
    Did you decide on the resonator or x-pipe? I love this B&B exhaust, I just wish it was a little louder!
    Yeah, I'm going with the resonators. I know I'm sacrificing a couple of horses, but I'm trying to keep the decibels down a little - probably a sign of my rapidly advancing old age!! Plus Jesse said that this setup (headers/no cats/resonators) has a really deep and smooth tone to it, and still has a pretty impressive "note."

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    Re: Installed Pacesetter Headers

    I was surprised how quiet it was with the headers and touring system. A little louder in the higher rpms, but idle was almost identical. I'm on the look out for an x-pipe center section. If you see one let me know.

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    Re: Installed Pacesetter Headers

    Quote Originally Posted by CI-V-IL View Post
    I was surprised how quiet it was with the headers and touring system. A little louder in the higher rpms, but idle was almost identical. I'm on the look out for an x-pipe center section. If you see one let me know.
    I will!! To me, if I can get a 10% HP increase from the B&B headers and exhaust, yet keep the sound relatively close to what it is now, I'll be thrilled.

    Congrats again on the header install!!

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    Re: Installed Pacesetter Headers

    i did pacesetters without wrap of amazon same as yours and they bolted right up i welded in my x-pipe and extended exhaust enough to take the cats out and then put cherry bombs on the back with tips. i wasnt sure about the cherry bombs but the guy i bought em said they would be same as flowmasters when you were on it and quieter just driving. after driving it i like the sound. its pretty quiet just cruising but when ya mash on it it is sounds different then everything else. also with the headers it is a world of difference on the way it pulls and i dont have a tune

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    Re: Installed Pacesetter Headers

    Will it be worth it to get these headers with a stock exhaust? Will it work with a stock exhaust?

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    Re: Installed Pacesetter Headers

    Quote Originally Posted by odla View Post
    Will it be worth it to get these headers with a stock exhaust? Will it work with a stock exhaust?
    I guess I'm not sure what you mean by, will it be worth it? Yes, It will bolt up to your stock exhaust. Should provide a few more ponies and a better exhaust note.
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    Re: Installed Pacesetter Headers

    I'm surprised to see a vibration dampener bolted on the side of those headers, especially when the more expensive ones like Kooks don't have it. Nice.
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    Re: Installed Pacesetter Headers

    Quote Originally Posted by The Tony Show View Post
    I'm surprised to see a vibration dampener bolted on the side of those headers, especially when the more expensive ones like Kooks don't have it. Nice.
    Is that what that is? I thought it was some sort of band clamp between the header collector and exhaust mating flange.

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    Re: Installed Pacesetter Headers

    Quote Originally Posted by BirdmanTamu View Post
    Is that what that is? I thought it was some sort of band clamp between the header collector and exhaust mating flange.
    Its a bandclamp holding the header to the flange.

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    Re: Installed Pacesetter Headers

    Looks like those band clamps could be torqued down tighter. I've used them a few times and every time I do I hit them with an impact gun until those crescent shaped pieces fully seat into the troughs on that center block. The other thing I typically do with those is coat the inside of the band with a layer of high temp copper RTV compound before torquing them down.

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