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    Re: V2 rotor/caliper retrofit for V1 cars

    Really? I find the stock pads in the V2 to be lacking a bit.

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    Re: V2 rotor/caliper retrofit for V1 cars

    Lacking?
    Compared to what and for what use?
    I feel that for a 100% streetable pad they hold their own fairly well on track.

    What would you run if you could only run 1 pad (on a V2) for everything?
    (not our case but a good question to put the goodness of factory pads in perspective)
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    Re: V2 rotor/caliper retrofit for V1 cars

    I chose to stick with RB pads ET500 and ET800, so I won't have to worry about conflicting pad compounds. There may be "better" track pads out there, but I'm on street tires and still driving novice. ET500s on the street, then swap to the 800s for events. Haven't driven on the 800s yet.

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    Re: V2 rotor/caliper retrofit for V1 cars

    I had a set of ET500 or ET800 and i managed to destroy a set at my last track day. Ive always been a big RB fan but those pads failed me on the track.

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    Re: V2 rotor/caliper retrofit for V1 cars

    I felt the stock pads to be a bit soft under hard braking. They left a soft pedal and stopping distances seemed a bit longer than when running Hawks. I run Hawk DTC-30 pads for the street and auto-x. I've run it on the track and it works very well. But someone said if you get them too hot, the pads effectiveness falls off. I didn't see that at Summit Point so I doubt you'd ever see that on the street.

    But the DTC-30 has excellent bite, even when cold, and gives good feedback. I've run them the past 2 summers(April to November) and still have them on now. And the stopping distances are noticeably better than stock...

    ---------- Post added at 06:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:40 PM ----------

    I then run Hawk DTC-70 for the front pads, DTC-60 for the rear when on the track now...
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    Re: V2 rotor/caliper retrofit for V1 cars

    Can't fault a guy for running DTC-30 on the street.
    No argument on those performing better than the stock pads.

    How is rotor wear and squeeking in street use?

    Also, can you get DTC-30 for the rear calipers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by liqidvenom View Post
    I had a set of ET500 or ET800 and i managed to destroy a set at my last track day. Ive always been a big RB fan but those pads failed me on the track.
    Which ones died at the track, ET-500 or ET-800?

    There is a big price difference between those 2 pads.
    I would not be a bit surprized if the ET-500's died.
    However, if you stepped up for the much more expensive ET-800's and they let you down, that would be interesting news.
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    Re: V2 rotor/caliper retrofit for V1 cars

    Quote Originally Posted by thebigjimsho View Post
    And the stopping distances are noticeably better than stock...
    You couldn't lock the brakes up with the stock pads?

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    Re: V2 rotor/caliper retrofit for V1 cars

    Quote Originally Posted by liqidvenom View Post
    I had a set of ET500 or ET800 and i managed to destroy a set at my last track day. Ive always been a big RB fan but those pads failed me on the track.
    Destroy a set of which? On which side of the car? Based on the user comments elsewhere, the 800s are not full track pads, but an excellent performing track/street pad. The 500s are not a track pad. RB and user comments both confirm this. RB told me the 800s work well as an HPDE/OT pad on street tires, but they will not survive with a more experienced driver and/or track tires.

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    Re: V2 rotor/caliper retrofit for V1 cars

    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora40 View Post
    You couldn't lock the brakes up with the stock pads?
    I found it difficult to induce ABS with the stock pads. A bit easier to do with the DTC-30s. But with the big Michelins(and now Kumhos) on the V2, it's not like I'm locking them up on every hard braking zone...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lunarx View Post
    Can't fault a guy for running DTC-30 on the street.
    No argument on those performing better than the stock pads.

    How is rotor wear and squeeking in street use?

    Also, can you get DTC-30 for the rear calipers?
    I'm at 35k miles running DTC-30s for all but about 10k of those miles. Still on stock rotors although I noticed tiny cracks in the center of my front rotors. Don't really know what directly to attribute that to being that I've tracked it with track pads, but at least I know they won't kill the rotors overnight.

    Squealing, yeah it's there. Which is annoying because my DTC-70s and DTC-60s have an embedded backing surface which results in little to no squeal. The DTC-30s that I have don't. Although, my DTC-30s were bought very early as Hawk was rushing to get the pads out for the V2 application. The pad sizes existed before, but the depths were wrong. I believe the GT-R pads had more pad material than ours do. So maybe DTC-30s available now have that backing on it.

    Dust is also heavier but it's not out of control if you drive normally. Get on them and they'll dust like a track pad should...

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    Re: V2 rotor/caliper retrofit for V1 cars

    You might have me convinced to try DTC-30 as an all-around pad, if offered in an embedded backing surface version.
    I didn't see DTC-30 listed for the rear calipers (on the Hawk website).

    They would not crack your rotors with street use just grind them down.
    If you got 30K on your rotors, then no worries.
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    Re: V2 rotor/caliper retrofit for V1 cars

    Quote Originally Posted by lunarx View Post
    You might have me convinced to try DTC-30 as an all-around pad, if offered in an embedded backing surface version.
    I didn't see DTC-30 listed for the rear calipers (on the Hawk website).

    They would not crack your rotors with street use just grind them down.
    If you got 30K on your rotors, then no worries.
    I get my pads from these guys...

    http://bigbrakeparts.net/searchResul...0Series%20Only

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    Re: V2 rotor/caliper retrofit for V1 cars

    That is an informative site. I've used raceshopper in the past. Their prices are extremely competitive, and they have good knowledge of pads and pad materials.

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    Re: V2 rotor/caliper retrofit for V1 cars

    Quote Originally Posted by soflarick View Post
    That is an informative site. I've used raceshopper in the past. Their prices are extremely competitive, and they have good knowledge of pads and pad materials.
    They're local to me, too, so that's nice...

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    Re: V2 rotor/caliper retrofit for V1 cars

    Quote Originally Posted by CadzillaTN View Post
    Someone order the yellow ones!
    Almost a year later, I'm finally moving that way. I picked up a pair of yellow rear calipers from Luke @ Lindsay today to see if they were the same as the V1 rear calipers (other than the color, of course). As far as I can tell, they are.

    A while back in another brake thread, lunarx said he had been told the silver V2 rear calipers were a different part number than the silver V1 rear calipers. I was pretty sure the rotors were the same (other than the bolt pattern), and the caliper body was the same, but there could have been some other changes (mounting bolt spacing, mounting bolt diameter, etc). That made me worry that if the silver ones weren't the same, then my plan of going with the yellow ones wouldn't work out, unless I went through the added trouble of sending my stock rear calipers off to be powdercoated to match the yellow fronts.

    Turns out, that isn't necessary - the V2 calipers appear to be the same, and bolt up just fine. I have one side already installed and will do the other side later. I'll also go ahead and get the fronts, too, now that I know the yellow will work out OK.
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    Re: V2 rotor/caliper retrofit for V1 cars

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