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    Re: Best "Bang-for-your-Buck" Road Course Mods?

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    Re: Best "Bang-for-your-Buck" Road Course Mods?

    Quote Originally Posted by AAIIIC View Post
    Which Carbotechs are you guys running?
    I am very interested in this as well. I have done 18 track days thus far with the NCCBMWCCA in my track car and two of my DD. I do believe you should start on the track with a slow car and only improve the car when the car becomes the limiting factor instead of you.

    After reading this I am going to try the Ti shims, and hopefully they will help with the track car. I will also skip the HPS pads, as some have mentioned these are a step back from stock. I wonder which pads people recommend that will work as well if not better than stock, and will not squeal. The main concern to think of is that this is a street car occasionally driven on the track, so I don't want to make any changes that will significantly hamper the comfort of the car.
    I have a proposed list of mods.
    Brake Pads / Fluid (ATE Super Blue)
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    Cradle Bushings / BMR wheel hop kit w/ bushings
    CAGS eliminator
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    Wheels / Tyres
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    As for Carbotech pads, on the track car, I run XP8 F/R, but I may be switching to XP10 if the Ti shims don't work.

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    Re: Best "Bang-for-your-Buck" Road Course Mods?

    Where can you get the Ti shims? Do you have a link? thanks.

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    Re: Best "Bang-for-your-Buck" Road Course Mods?

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    Where can you get the Ti shims? Do you have a link? thanks.
    Front Ti Shims

    Rear Ti Shims

    Adjustable Sway Bar End Links

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    Re: Best "Bang-for-your-Buck" Road Course Mods?

    ctsvparts.com

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    Re: Best "Bang-for-your-Buck" Road Course Mods?

    Quote Originally Posted by v-sam View Post
    XP16 and XP12
    Well, I tried the XP16s and can't say I'm impressed. Braking performance was no better than it was with the Hawk DTC70s - if anything, it may have been a bit worse. And more importantly, the life of the XP16s is too damn short - 2 days at Summit and they're toast! Down to maybe 1.5mm of material left, so I won't even bother starting my next event with them on the car.



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    Re: Best "Bang-for-your-Buck" Road Course Mods?

    Thank you. Good feedback. I went with ST42s but always wondered about the Carbotechs.

    Do Carbotechs require the rotor surfaces to be free of previous brake pad materials?

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    Re: Best "Bang-for-your-Buck" Road Course Mods?

    I assume so - that's seems pretty standard with most pads. I prepped the rotors like I always do when I'm changing to different pads.

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    Re: Best "Bang-for-your-Buck" Road Course Mods?

    From the Carbotech site.
    If rotors were previously bedded using a different manufacturer’s brake pads; then it is strongly recommended that the used discs (rotors) be reconditioned/turned and meet minimum specification requirements.
    Reconditioned?? As in machining?
    I always stayed away from Carbotechs because of this. Especially if you go back and forth from street pads to track pads. I'm thinking a Scotchbrite pad may not get the job done and the ceramic compound doesn't like the metallic stuff embedded in the rotor.

    You an I are in agreement with most turning recommendations (waste of time) except I wonder if the friction material is all that different then it's really necessary.

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    Re: Best "Bang-for-your-Buck" Road Course Mods?

    RB recommended procedure is to use fine steel wool and brake cleaner on the friction surface to prep it for another compound pad.

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    Re: Best "Bang-for-your-Buck" Road Course Mods?

    What tires are you two using with the Hawk and Raybestos pads?

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    Re: Best "Bang-for-your-Buck" Road Course Mods?

    Nitto NT01s before, Hankook C51 Z214s now.

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    Re: Best "Bang-for-your-Buck" Road Course Mods?

    Yoko AD08s with the ST42s. Street and track set up. Track set up R6s.

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    Re: Best "Bang-for-your-Buck" Road Course Mods?

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    Yoko AD08s with the ST42s. Street and track set up. Track set up R6s.
    I see that you and unsafeatanyspeed both run the R6s. I was always thinking about the R1s, but maybe the R6s are better. Can you tell me why you chose one over the other?

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    Re: Best "Bang-for-your-Buck" Road Course Mods?

    R6s,as rebadged Continentals, are pretty plentiful right now coming off the Grand Am circuit. They can be had pretty cheap. I think the R100s are full racing slicks while the R6s are DOT and have two grooves. A guy I know who runs GT Trackdays said the R100s are super sticky but when they let go it's all over. R6s are a bit more progressive but certainly not as forgiving as a street tire. If the price is right R6s are hard to beat and are considered by some as the benchmark of DOT slicks. For me it was about cost. Good used R6s with 75% or more tread life are cheap right now.

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