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2004-2007 Cadillac CTS-V Performance Mods Discussion, Summary table of swaybar options in Cadillac CTS-V Series Forum - 2004 - 2007; Just installed the Addco 2290 front (1.375" solid core, ~110% stiffer than stock, 28.5 lbs) and 2289 rear (1" solid ...
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    Re: Summary table of swaybar options

    Just installed the Addco 2290 front (1.375" solid core, ~110% stiffer than stock, 28.5 lbs) and 2289 rear (1" solid core, ~125% stiffer than stock, 14.4 lbs) sway bars. I'm using Energy Suspension brackets and bushings, since the hardware included by Addco doesn't include Zerk grease fittings. While heavy, I'm loving the roll resistance that they provide. Definitely need to get my car re-aligned--it's pushing pretty hard out of turns right now. Toe settings are about -0.1 degrees front (toe in) and +0.3 degrees rear (toe out). Will probably have that adjusted to 0 degrees front (neutral) and +0.1 degrees rear (toe out) to compensate.

    The stiffness numbers that I provided above are estimates, based on my previous equipment: Hotchkis 2280 front (1.125" hollow core, 70% stiffer than stock, 9.0 lbs) and rear (1" hollow core, 90% stiffer than stock, 7.4 lbs) sway bars. I think the majority of the additional stiffness that the Addco rear bar provides is a result of its straighter construction. Every bend in the bar reduces its overall torsional stiffness. Comparison image:


    Hotchkis 2280 rear bar (top), Addco 2289 rear bar (bottom)

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    Re: Summary table of swaybar options

    Good info!

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    Re: Summary table of swaybar options

    Fuzzylogic-

    What is your driving impression of the Addco vs Hotchkis swaybars? I've have the LG Motorsport coilovers and am looking for less body roll. Also I have the CS 8.8 diff...since I don't remember how the rear swaybar is located in relation to the diff, hoping the Addco would fit with any interference.

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    The 8.8 should work fine with the Addco bar. If you're really concerned, maybe we can figure out how to get some comparison measurements.

    The Hotchkis set is a little more balanced front-to-rear than the Addco set, which has a pretty massive front bar. Personally, I like the Addco set a lot better, because unlike other people, I adjust my spring rates and engineer my alignment settings to put the finishing touches on my car's front/rear roll stiffness and propensity to oversteer/understeer.

    The biggest problem is that the stock brackets don't include grease Zerks. The Hotchkis brackets are better, both because they have Zerk fittings and the front bracket is a standard shape that relies on the included steel standoffs to "fix" our effed up mounting location. If you can machine or work metal, the Addco brackets might not be a problem for you--you could easily buy a set of Energy Suspension brackets to replace the Addco crap.

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    So Fuzzy are you currently running the Addco bar and KWv3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andringa View Post
    So Fuzzy are you currently running the Addco bar and KWv3?
    Yes. They work great together, although I'm presently planning on upping the rear spring rate to promote better roll resistance and push the car a little further toward oversteer.

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    Re: Summary table of swaybar options

    Fuzzy, are you somehow doing your own alignment, or do you just take it to a shop and tell them what settings you want?

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    Re: Summary table of swaybar options

    I would be interested to see what kind of settings people are running with their KW V3 coil-overs. I have been looking for a good setup prior to purchase.

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    Fuzzy, are you somehow doing your own alignment, or do you just take it to a shop and tell them what settings you want?
    I take it to a shop that has a great laser alignment rig and a guy that does this full time. He makes the adjustments to my specifications, following a discussion regarding the performance of the existing alignment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyLogic View Post
    I take it to a shop that has a great laser alignment rig and a guy that does this full time. He makes the adjustments to my specifications, following a discussion regarding the performance of the existing alignment.
    Any suggestions on initial setup of the KW coilovers for ride height and damper settings?

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    Any suggestions on initial setup of the KW coilovers for ride height and damper settings?
    The compression and rebound dampening settings recommended in the manual are a good starting point. Don't assume that the shocks will be set correctly when they arrive. The included springs with the kit are horrible--they sag about 1/2 inch over the first couple of days, above and beyond the mounts and brackets. If you want pictures of my settings, I may be able to snap a picture of the front and rear rings this weekend. The fronts were about 2/3 down from the top, if I recall correctly, and the rear rings are about 1/3 down from the top.

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    Re: Summary table of swaybar options

    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyLogic View Post
    The 8.8 should work fine with the Addco bar. If you're really concerned, maybe we can figure out how to get some comparison measurements.

    The Hotchkis set is a little more balanced front-to-rear than the Addco set, which has a pretty massive front bar. Personally, I like the Addco set a lot better, because unlike other people, I adjust my spring rates and engineer my alignment settings to put the finishing touches on my car's front/rear roll stiffness and propensity to oversteer/understeer.

    The biggest problem is that the stock brackets don't include grease Zerks. The Hotchkis brackets are better, both because they have Zerk fittings and the front bracket is a standard shape that relies on the included steel standoffs to "fix" our effed up mounting location. If you can machine or work metal, the Addco brackets might not be a problem for you--you could easily buy a set of Energy Suspension brackets to replace the Addco crap.
    So are you saying that if I buy a set of Addco bars right now, that the brackets won't work as supplied?
    Would you mind listing or linking to the specific Energy Suspension brackets that you ended up using with your Addco bars?

    After seeing a few action shots from our last autox I really want to get larger swaybars, I just haven't had time to research them for myself. Thanks!

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    The included brackets will work. They'll just be a royal pain to grease, since they don't have Zerks. I don't have the Energy Suspension part numbers at the moment. If you're in a hurry, use the part selector on Summit Racing to pick out a universal, greasable 1.375" and 1.0" kit. They come in red and black, I believe.

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    Re: Summary table of swaybar options

    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyLogic View Post
    The compression and rebound dampening settings recommended in the manual are a good starting point. Don't assume that the shocks will be set correctly when they arrive. The included springs with the kit are horrible--they sag about 1/2 inch over the first couple of days, above and beyond the mounts and brackets. If you want pictures of my settings, I may be able to snap a picture of the front and rear rings this weekend. The fronts were about 2/3 down from the top, if I recall correctly, and the rear rings are about 1/3 down from the top.
    Fuzzy, some pictures would be awesome. Would you recommend replacing the stock springs with something else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigfod View Post
    Fuzzy, some pictures would be awesome. Would you recommend replacing the stock springs with something else?
    I'll do what I can. Still working on the spring question. I need to take some measurements and do a couple of quick calcs to achieve a wheel rate of approximately 2.0 Hz front and 2.5 Hz rear.

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