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2004-2007 Cadillac CTS-V Performance Mods Discussion, Summary table of swaybar options in Cadillac CTS-V Series Forum - 2004 - 2007; Originally Posted by RyRidesMotoX Brian broke sway bars? How in the hell? I want to see him drive. He must ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyRidesMotoX View Post
    Brian broke sway bars? How in the hell? I want to see him drive. He must put Mario Andretti and Ayrton Senna to shame.
    http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums...-sway-bar.html

    Apparently he wasn't actually doing anything that you'd consider aggressive.

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    Re: Summary table of swaybar options

    Fuzzy, are you trying to fix something that you don't like about the Hotchkis setup? Or are you just looking for something new to try?
    I've read a few posts from people that say their Vs tended to push with the Front and Rear Hotchkis bars. Trying to figure out which way I would want to go in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andringa View Post
    Fuzzy, are you trying to fix something that you don't like about the Hotchkis setup? Or are you just looking for something new to try?
    I've read a few posts from people that say their Vs tended to push with the Front and Rear Hotchkis bars. Trying to figure out which way I would want to go in the future.
    I'm just experimenting at this stage (also with dual-rate coilover springs--thread link). The Hotchkis setup is just a little too soft for my cornering tastes, and I want to see if I can feel the difference with a bigger front sway bar. If I like it, I may buy the solid rear bar too.

    With regarding to the people complaining about push, I wonder if a) they lowered their cars at the same time as they installed their sway bars, messing up their alignments and b) if the push isn't largely due to the crappy front control arm bushings. When I installed the TiC 95A trailing arm bushings (now also sold by Revshift), the rear end really stayed with me through corners are lot better. Small wonder, since the stock 60A rubber bushing was almost as soft as a pencil eraser. The front control arm bushings are even worse.

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    Just as an FYI - Addco does make a tubular rear bar. I hope to have it on my car this weekend. The part numbers for their tubular bars were 2447 and 2448. I'm not sure what the difference is between the 2290 and 2447.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sssnake View Post
    Just as an FYI - Addco does make a tubular rear bar. I hope to have it on my car this weekend. The part numbers for their tubular bars were 2447 and 2448. I'm not sure what the difference is between the 2290 and 2447.
    If you're going to go tubular, I would've bought the Hotchkis set. Too late for you, though. The 2290 is solid steel and the 2447 is tubular. Huge difference in torsional strength.

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    Well the goal was to get in the ballpark of the no longer produced GMPP sways. The front matches up nicely, 1.38 GMPP vs 1.375 Addco (assumed identical wall thickness). The rear is a little different in that the GMPP is .94 solid and the Addco is 1.0 tubular. That is the one I'm a little worried about but I wanted to start with something a little milder than the 1" solid. If I don't like it I will go with the solid.

    But in general most of the torsional strength comes from the outer diameter (gross simplification). If the hollow bar had a wall thickness of .25" then the hollow bar in this case would have a torsional strength of a about 80% of the solid bar strength (2290 vs 2247). At least that what I came up with. It's been a while since my ME classes.

    If I was going super aggressive I would have gone with solid front and rear.

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    Re: Summary table of swaybar options

    Who had the Addco bar(s) in stock?

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    Re: Summary table of swaybar options

    Last I checked there was still a set of GMPP sways for sale in the classifieds for $500.
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    Re: Summary table of swaybar options

    Quote Originally Posted by Junior1 View Post
    Last I checked there was still a set of GMPP sways for sale in the classifieds for $500.
    soflarick's? I emailed him back when his ad was posted...said they were sold to someone on the another forum. ...cant catch a break on sways...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDB View Post
    soflarick's? I emailed him back when his ad was posted...said they were sold to someone on the another forum. ...cant catch a break on sways...
    Got ya. That sucks...
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    Re: Summary table of swaybar options

    I emailed him as well with no luck. I bought the sways from neverenoughauto

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    Quote Originally Posted by sssnake View Post
    I emailed him as well with no luck. I bought the sways from neverenoughauto
    Same here. They were $190 versus $200 everywhere else. Took a couple of weeks to arrive, however.

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    Re: Summary table of swaybar options

    I know this is an old post but what bars did you end up sticking with Fuzzy? Likes, dislikes?

    Deciding on which ones to install later here.

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    Re: Summary table of swaybar options

    addco front sway gtg? looks like not worth getting the rear but front is the biggest difference and closest to the GMPP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by izcain View Post
    I know this is an old post but what bars did you end up sticking with Fuzzy? Likes, dislikes?

    Deciding on which ones to install later here.
    My Addco rear bar is arriving today to replace my Hotchkis rear bar. Although they're both 1" in diameter, the Addco is a solid-core bar, making it 35-40% stiffer (although triple the weight). Once I get the KW Variant 3's installed and fitted against the Addco front bar (there's a concern about clearance), I'll let you know what I think.

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