Gforce axle testing conclusions - Page 3

SkullV · #31 (**permalink**) 10-24-09, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by whisler151

You think I have wheel hop because I have a bad bushing? My bushing is fine. I'm not in a huge hurry to take my driver side axle apart. Frankly, doing the swap is not the most fun thing to do. I will be getting rid of my tires and going back to the regular Dunlop Direzzas, as I didnt have wheel hop with them...they just spun. It made the car a lot more fun to drive. I'd rather spin than hop any day.

So you would rather sacrifice performance to lose hop rather then get the solution you paid for corrected?

maxspeed96ct · #32 (**permalink**) 10-24-09, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by whisler151

You think I have wheel hop because I have a bad bushing? My bushing is fine. I'm not in a huge hurry to take my driver side axle apart. Frankly, doing the swap is not the most fun thing to do. I will be getting rid of my tires and going back to the regular Dunlop Direzzas, as I didnt have wheel hop with them...they just spun. It made the car a lot more fun to drive. I'd rather spin than hop any day.

ya the swap doesnt look like fun...

The hop doesnt bother me to much either, hence why I havent bough either Hendrix or gforce axle yet and keep doing Hp mods.

cant justify the money if its not a 100% fix

I just dont drag race the car, highway rolls or I swallow my pride and just dont go from a dig no matter what

But i keep my eye open in the threads just to see what new results are in ...

whisler151 · #33 (**permalink**) 10-24-09, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SkullV

So you would rather sacrifice performance to lose hop rather then get the solution you paid for corrected?

I loved the way I could toss my V around corners and launch hard and spin. Now all I do is hop. When you start hopping you have to get off the gas. When you start spinning you power through it and keep going. I dont race my V, I drive it hard for my enjoyment. It is a lot easier for me to get new tires (that I am close to needing anyway).

I bought a part that had not been tested before (on LS2 V), that was the risk I took. Will I eventually swap out the driver side to an 05?...sure. Will it fix the hop?...probably. Do I feel like spending the time to be the be the tester?..not really. Gforce offered to send me a new driver side axle. He's been a stand up guy through our testing of his axle. Right now i just really dont feel like swapping out another axle. That's what it comes down to.

When I feel like pulling out the driver side I will. I only have a year left of of my car, hopefully I will be in a V2 next Christmas and wont have to worry about damn hopping. I've already had this car for nearly 3 years, that's too long.

whisler151 · #34 (**permalink**) 10-24-09, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by maxspeed96ct

ya the swap doesnt look like fun...

The hop doesnt bother me to much either, hence why i havent bough either hendrix or gforce axle yet and keep doing hp mods.

Cant justify the money if its not a 100% fix

i just dont drag race the car, highway rolls or i swallow my pride and just dont go from a dig no matter what

but i keep my eye open in the threads just to see what new results are in ...

exactly!

nikon · #35 (**permalink**) 10-25-09, 06:11 PM

^^^ you spent the same amount of money as I did 300$ I think....and it doesn't work....send it back and get a hendrix driver side axle...you can keep your stock pass side axle and enjoy sticky tires with no hop...I can't figure out why you wanna go back to shitty tires to eliminate the hop when you already paid for something that was supposed to work....me and skull are proof that the bigger (even if only slightly) driver side axle works......with that information, I don't see the logic doing anything else...especially when it costs the same.

And up until an hour ago I hadn't done a hard 1-2 shift.....(prolly shouldn't have drank so much) either way.......no hop

didn't hop spinning past the minivan either

liqidvenom · #36 (**permalink**) 10-26-09, 11:35 AM

aside from the drinking and driving nikon makes a valid point

GFORCE1320 · #37 (**permalink**) 10-26-09, 02:03 PM

I won't be making a big drivers side axle.
I will however be making a small drivers side axle that I'll offer for the guys that now have a large axle on the passenger side.
The guys that have the smaller axle on the passenger side will get the big axle for the passenger side.
I'm not going to make a one size fixes all axle because I don't believe that is the correct way to handle the wheel hop problem.

Thanks
Chris

GFORCE1320 · #38 (**permalink**) 10-26-09, 03:07 PM

For a re-cap, here is what I am offering:

04-05 V's get a small diameter drivers side 300m axle.
06-07 V's get a big diameter passenger side 300m axle.

This will offer the best single axle solution for eliminating wheel hop.
If you choose to run both a small drivers axle and big passenger axle then it will work even better.

For some reason I didnt even think about whisler having the newer axles, I have offered to send him what I should of sent in the first place, a small drivers side axle.
We'll see how he wants to proceed on getting it corrected.
How ever he wants to do it is fine with me.

Thanks
Chris

SkullV · #39 (**permalink**) 10-26-09, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GFORCE1320

For a re-cap, here is what I am offering:

04-05 V's get a small diameter drivers side 300m axle.
06-07 V's get a big diameter passenger side 300m axle.

This will offer the best single axle solution for eliminating wheel hop.
If you choose to run both a small drivers axle and big passenger axle then it will work even better.

For some reason I didnt even think about whisler having the newer axles, I have offered to send him what I should of sent in the first place, a small drivers side axle.
We'll see how he wants to proceed on getting it corrected.
How ever he wants to do it is fine with me.

Thanks
Chris

Why is having a bigger driver's side axle not the right solution if it has been proven to work as well as your solution on both 04-05 and 06-07 axle sets? I am not trying to stir the pot, or harrass you, I just really want to know why you feel having the larger axle on the passenger side is the right way to go?

GFORCE1320 · #40 (**permalink**) 10-26-09, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SkullV

Why is having a bigger driver's side axle not the right solution if it has been proven to work as well as your solution on both 04-05 and 06-07 axle sets? I am not trying to stir the pot, or harrass you, I just really want to know why you feel having the larger axle on the passenger side is the right way to go?

The big axle on the passenger side works great for the 04-05's.
GM did it that way with the new Camaro's also.

I've had great success with the big passenger side axle in the GTO.
I'm just sticking with what has been proven to work.

The trick is have the biggest variance of size/weight between the 2 sides to break up the harmonics.

If the big drivers side axle worked good for you, that's great.

nikon · #41 (**permalink**) 10-26-09, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GFORCE1320

For a re-cap, here is what I am offering:

04-05 V's get a small diameter drivers side 300m axle.
06-07 V's get a big diameter passenger side 300m axle.

This will offer the best single axle solution for eliminating wheel hop.
If you choose to run both a small drivers axle and big passenger axle then it will work even better.

For some reason I didnt even think about whisler having the newer axles, I have offered to send him what I should of sent in the first place, a small drivers side axle.
We'll see how he wants to proceed on getting it corrected.
How ever he wants to do it is fine with me.

Thanks
Chris

I think you have it backwards....06-07 get the small axle 04-05 get the big axle....right?

GFORCE1320 · #42 (**permalink**) 10-26-09, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by nikon

I think you have it backwards....06-07 get the small axle 04-05 get the big axle....right?

You are correct.. since I waited too long to hit the edit button I have to have the admin fix it.

04-05 get the big passenger side axle
06-07 get the small drivers axle

The ideal fix is to run a small drivers side axle and a big passenger side axle.
Some guys have decided to do just that and get both axles.
I think they will have the best results of all.

SkullV · #43 (**permalink**) 10-26-09, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GFORCE1320

The ideal fix is to run a small drivers side axle and a big passenger side axle.
Some guys have decided to do just that and get both axles.
I think they will have the best results of all.

I still don't understand why this is the "ideal" fix. If the driver's side works and the passenger doesn't with 06-07 axles.

whisler151 · #44 (**permalink**) 10-26-09, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SkullV

I still don't understand why this is the "ideal" fix. If the driver's side works and the passenger doesn't with 06-07 axles.

Dude, it's how he has done it in the past and will continue to do it. I'm not sure why you are pushing the issue. You have your HE axles and are happy.

We are all in agreement that you need two different diameter half shafts. So why do you keep trying to argue?

Because the part I paid for didnt work on the LS2 V, Gforce is paying for me to have the driver side installed at my local shop.

GFORCE1320 · #45 (**permalink**) 10-26-09, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SkullV

I still don't understand why this is the "ideal" fix. If the driver's side works and the passenger doesn't with 06-07 axles.

This is "MY" ideal fix.
And it does work.

Your Hendrix axle worked for you, I'm happy for you.

Now let me develop my axle solution, I'm not going to get into a pissing match over who is right or wrong about axle design.

All Whisler would need to do to make the big axle work on the passenger side is either install a small drivers side OEM 04-05 axle or one of my small 300m axles.

I goofed and sent Whisler a big passenger side axle instead of a small drivers side axle.
If I had sent him the correct axle then we probably wouldn’t be having this discussion.