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2004-2007 Cadillac CTS-V Performance Mods Discussion, Mallett Supercharger or Heads & Cam??? in Cadillac CTS-V Series Forum - 2004 - 2007; Originally Posted by Adamo Dear Members, I just purchased a 2006 Cadillac CTS-V. I would like to have my car ...
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    Re: Mallett Supercharger or Heads & Cam???

    Quote Originally Posted by Adamo View Post
    Dear Members,
    I just purchased a 2006 Cadillac CTS-V. I would like to have my car modified. My question is what are the differences/pros/cons and horsepower ratings between the:

    5.0 mallett supercharger 2006 conversion package and the 1.0 mallett head and cam conversion package for my LS2 engine? The head and cam conversion package is 16K and the supercharger which is a magnuson supercharger for 13K. What I do not understand is the supercharger package is supposed to be rated at 550horsepower and the head and cam 510 horsepower. Should the prices not be the other way around? Any feedback

    Thanks
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    Holy crap! A blower typically costs 6k and a set of heads and cam usually come out to about 4k, I didn't realize 10 grand was the going rate to do a head job on a car!!! I guess I found a stellar deal at 2k for an install.... lol

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    Re: Mallett Supercharger or Heads & Cam???

    Consider doing our LS3 based 416 CI package - 600 normally aspirated horsepower, very mild cam lope and very, very streetable - a true daily driver complete with warranty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamo View Post
    Dear Members,
    I just purchased a 2006 Cadillac CTS-V. I would like to have my car modified. My question is what are the differences/pros/cons and horsepower ratings between the:

    5.0 mallett supercharger 2006 conversion package and the 1.0 mallett head and cam conversion package for my LS2 engine? The head and cam conversion package is 16K and the supercharger which is a magnuson supercharger for 13K. What I do not understand is the supercharger package is supposed to be rated at 550horsepower and the head and cam 510 horsepower. Should the prices not be the other way around? Any feedback

    Thanks
    Adamo

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    Re: Mallett Supercharger or Heads & Cam???

    how much power you want to make and what is the budget?
    with that kind of $$ I would look at what RPM is talking about.
    either way, it will be COOL.

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    Re: Mallett Supercharger or Heads & Cam???

    lol for 16 grand I could probably get about 1000 horses out of an LSX engine:
    http://texas-speed.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=889&catid=88 - 4.10 bore base block - $1720
    http://texas-speed.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=887&catid=88 - 4.00 bore base block - $1720
    TSP stage 2.5 L92 heads and cam package (4.00 and up block) - $1824
    102mm FAST intake manifold - $980

    There ya go guys. BIG naturally aspirated power for about the same money as a maggie. Granted, you'll have several little incidentals to get, injectors, head bolts, larger headers, throttle body.. but Ill make mine a small block 454 before I make it whine.

    Toss a maggie on that 454 combo, you're looking at 750 horses all day long minimum. The maggie will add 5-6k to that order. Tranzilla and a built 9 inch will suck up the rest of the 16 grand you have to spend. Then you'll have a car that runs AT LEAST a low 10 quarter mile, and can actually do it without blowing up!

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    Re: Mallett Supercharger or Heads & Cam???

    Unusable power...

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    Re: Mallett Supercharger or Heads & Cam???

    Quote Originally Posted by thebigjimsho View Post
    Unusable power...
    Only to those who fear it. Go replace your wrecked V with a honda.

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    Re: Mallett Supercharger or Heads & Cam???

    Quote Originally Posted by CTS-Voodoo View Post
    Only to those who fear it. Go replace your wrecked V with a honda.

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    Re: Mallett Supercharger or Heads & Cam???

    By the way, I spent about 17k on my car and have a lowered it with GC and QA-1's, bad ass wheels, forged engine and overdriven maggie, some trans work done, Kars III, and a whole lot more. I forget what all has been done now lol

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    Re: Mallett Supercharger or Heads & Cam???

    I swear to god I want a stroker motor so bad!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTS-Voodoo View Post
    Only to those who fear it. Go replace your wrecked V with a honda.
    Whatever you say straight-line guy...

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    Re: Mallett Supercharger or Heads & Cam???

    A few years back Mallett let some V guys tour his shop (and the Corsa shop, too)

    I had a chance to test run a Mallett V when a local guy was selling his and a V member on the west coast wanted to buy it. This machine had the full Mallett treatment with a 7 L power plant. Everything was top shelf except those fugly wheels. The Mallett spindles made that car turn on its rear inside wheel (well, almost)

    I drive a maggied V with Stealth tune.

    That Mallett V can out perform, out accelerate, out corner (you get the picture) my V every day, any day.

    And Mallett puts a warranty on the drive train.

    If Luna didn't buy that Mallett, I was ready for marital hell because I was ready to sell my V for the Mallett.

    At Beaverun, I had a chance to run with (against) a Mallett V with H&C on 5.7 L. My V accelerated better out of the curves. I wouldn't trade for that one.

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    Re: Mallett Supercharger or Heads & Cam???

    Quote Originally Posted by Adamo View Post
    Dear rand49er, when you say you would bet money on which one I choose you think it would be the supercharger package or the heads and cam package? ...
    Just for street driving, you'd love a supercharger.



    Quote Originally Posted by PISNUOFF View Post
    Randy, as most people with superchargers, is saying that after you drive both you will like the supercharged one better. I've driven both and I do like the lower end torque from a supercharger, but I went the heads and cam route. I have similar horsepower numbers and similar peak torque numbers. No one can tell you which one you should get, you have to drive both to figure which one you like better ...
    Some guys like the sudden kick when the RPM rise and the torque really starts coming on in the higher RPMs with a high-performance head and cam package. Just like Brian says, you have to drive both and figure out which one you like best.



    Quote Originally Posted by thebigjimsho View Post
    ... But honestly, if you want to have a badass ride and just tool around like Randy(since his wife only let's him do 1 track day every 3 years...at least that's what he claims. He's probably just escared...), a supercharger is the way to go. Better usable power. But if you like to track it a lot or tool around in hot weather, heads/cam packages may be the way to go.

    All NA(naturally aspirated) for me instead of FI(forced induction)...
    I'm a wuss on the track. Worst part for me is knowing when you have to get out of the throttle while in the triple digits and go hard on the binders coming into a sharp corner with a friggin' concrete barrier a few yards away ... I need more practice, a LOT more. As far as following a good line and hitting the apex, that I figured out in the early going at V-Day I with good instruction ... it made a heck of a lot of sense.

    Best thing would be to drive someone else's car, with no concrete barriers 10 feet to either side, and with no wet grass between the track and whatever barriers there are.

    As for NA vs FI, on a track, you're almost always running the motor at the high end of the RPM range where the H/C (i.e. NA) setup sparkles, thus the difference between NA and FI is not nearly as great there.



    And my wife? I'm on a short leash ... what can I say?
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