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    Toe Rodz... I gots questions...

    Hi Guys,

    When having the Kdubs installed, the V's rear toes rods were frozen and I can't get a proper alignment. It's only off a little, so I don't need the things tomorrow, but want to order real soon. I have a couple questions for those out there.

    BMR has them obvi, but from what I hear they can be real hard to adjust. Mr. H. Metals, you have them and seem to swear by them, why are they so hard to adjust? Also I'm leaning on getting the trailing arms at the same time....

    2003CR51 (?) Are you still making sets? What's your deal?

    Thanks- Mike

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    Re: Toe Rodz... I gots questions...

    Quote Originally Posted by ahahnu View Post
    Hi Guys,

    When having the Kdubs installed, the V's rear toes rods were frozen and I can't get a proper alignment. It's only off a little, so I don't need the things tomorrow, but want to order real soon. I have a couple questions for those out there.

    BMR has them obvi, but from what I hear they can be real hard to adjust. Mr. H. Metals, you have them and seem to swear by them, why are they so hard to adjust? Also I'm leaning on getting the trailing arms at the same time....

    2003CR51 (?) Are you still making sets? What's your deal?

    Thanks- Mike
    Theres a guy with an blown 05 here in town, he had the BMRs on his car, took em back off 2 days later. The heim joints they use for their parts are lower quality and are metal on metal contact, so they make clicking noises when you hit bumps.

    Try to find a builder (hint 2003cr51) that uses some quality parts and doesnt have this issue. My toe rods and trailing arms have no issues whatsoever and my entire rear suspension is teflon impregnated heims. Who needs rubber/polyurethane anyway?

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    Re: Toe Rodz... I gots questions...

    The clicking noise is probably from a faulty install.

    I had to shim them before I could torque them (frame mount side) and the inside adjustment is a PITA to get at (my alignment guy was not happy bout that).

    They (BMR) are a heck of a lot beefier then stock.

    I like em.

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    Re: Toe Rodz... I gots questions...

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    The clicking noise is probably from a faulty install.

    I had to shim them before I could torque them (frame mount side) and the inside adjustment is a PITA to get at (my alignment guy was not happy bout that).

    They (BMR) are a heck of a lot beefier then stock.

    I like em.
    They require shimming? Really? Youd think they would have just turned down the heim cones with a lathe like I did so theres no issues down the road...

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    Re: Toe Rodz... I gots questions...

    People assume a lot.

    Evidently the width of the cone(s) varied from what they measured and what my car is.

    Same for the trailing arms.

    By the way, some guys just torqued/bent the crap out of the install points instead of shimming it tight then torquing and then they wonder why they get noise out of the doggone things DUH.

    Then, ya can't put the OEM stuff back because now they won't fit.

    Picture shows shims to left (2) and right (1) of cone(s).

    Also note how easy the nut is to get at (NOT!).

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    Here is the trailing arm with the shim if you look hard enough.

    One shim on top also.

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    Re: Toe Rodz... I gots questions...

    This is why I asked you. Thank you. For the lay man (myself) by shims, do you mean washers that can squeeze in around the bolt and between the rod/arm and the car mounting point? Thanks!

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    Yeah, id say go grab some washers, or theres the other option of going super anal and going to a machine shop and having a chunk of billet steel machined into spacers correct to the thousandth of an inch.

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    Re: Toe Rodz... I gots questions...

    Quote Originally Posted by ahahnu View Post
    This is why I asked you. Thank you. For the lay man (myself) by shims, do you mean washers that can squeeze in around the bolt and between the rod/arm and the car mounting point? Thanks!
    Yep, and I got them in different thickness also.

    Want to know a trick to stacking shim/washers so the whole thing doesn't come apart in your hands while your trying to wedge the thing into place?

    RUBBER CEMENT, and it doesn't need a lot.

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