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07-21-09, 01:51 PM
|  | Drive It. Break It. Build it Better Cadillac(s): Platinum 2004 CTS-V  | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Indiana | | | Re: UUC Motor Mount Install Ques for Maggie-Equipped Cars
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Originally Posted by 2003RC51  Did you remove the stud that goes through the frame rail(female torx bit needed) after removing the nut? The only thing you need to clear is the dowel on the bottom of the lower aluminum pad which is about an inch long. | Negative Ghostrider......no wonder we are talking different. Gotcha
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07-23-09, 12:28 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): cts v | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Bay Shore NY Age: 47 | | | Re: UUC Motor Mount Install Ques for Maggie-Equipped Cars
Just had my original UUC mounts replaced with the new design and my mechanic just removed the the two subframe bolts, lowered the the subframe and removed the mounts. He supported the motor and didn't have to raise it. |
07-23-09, 12:39 PM
|  | Mods on hold till diff gets fixed. Cadillac(s): 2005 CTS-V | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: South Lyon, MI Age: 60 | | | Re: UUC Motor Mount Install Ques for Maggie-Equipped Cars
No kidding?!!
I need to look into that!
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07-23-09, 12:53 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): cts v | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Bay Shore NY Age: 47 | | | Re: UUC Motor Mount Install Ques for Maggie-Equipped Cars
Yeah he just supported the motor removed the two subframe bolts (right behind the wheels) and removed the mounts. |
07-23-09, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SlvrVee Just had my original UUC mounts replaced with the new design and my mechanic just removed the the two subframe bolts, lowered the the subframe and removed the mounts. He supported the motor and didn't have to raise it. | What about the headers, did they have to come off? 
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07-23-09, 01:26 PM
| | Mods on hold till diff gets fixed. Cadillac(s): 2005 CTS-V | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: South Lyon, MI Age: 60 | | | Re: UUC Motor Mount Install Ques for Maggie-Equipped Cars
Won't bother me since I have to take the headers off anyway, replace the gaskets, and retorque them up. Got a bodacious leak on the passenger side. |
07-23-09, 02:03 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 2005 CTS-V | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Spring, Texas | | | Re: UUC Motor Mount Install Ques for Maggie-Equipped Cars
The Service Manual instructions for engine mount replacement are attachments in the following thread: http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums...or-mounts.html
If I am reading those instructions correctly, they do not actually call for raising the engine, rather they say to raise/lift the car and support the engine with a block and jack under the oil pan. They do indicate that the passenger side requires the removal of the starter, which in turn requires the removal of the catalytic converter. Do you really have to remove the starter and/or cat? |
07-23-09, 02:06 PM
| | Drive It. Break It. Build it Better Cadillac(s): Platinum 2004 CTS-V | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Indiana | | | Re: UUC Motor Mount Install Ques for Maggie-Equipped Cars
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Originally Posted by SlvrVee Yeah he just supported the motor removed the two subframe bolts (right behind the wheels) and removed the mounts. |
Wish you had some pics.....that sounds like it would be much easier that way! |
07-23-09, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by lollygagger8 Wish you had some pics.....that sounds like it would be much easier that way! | Maybe this? |
07-23-09, 05:12 PM
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perplexing......I'm going to have to look at this when I get home |
07-23-09, 05:15 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): '05 CTS-V, '00 SLS, 98 SLS, 89 Eldo, '80 Eldo | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NYC Age: 38 | | | Re: UUC Motor Mount Install Ques for Maggie-Equipped Cars
So if you lower the cradle, then you can't use ramps, right?
You'd need to support the car. Support the motor. Support and lower the cradle. Does that sound right???
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07-23-09, 05:24 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 2005 CTS-V | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Spring, Texas | | | Re: UUC Motor Mount Install Ques for Maggie-Equipped Cars
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Originally Posted by Twitch So if you lower the cradle, then you can't use ramps, right?
You'd need to support the car. Support the motor. Support and lower the cradle. Does that sound right??? | I don't understand the cradle approach - that diagram comes from the oil pan replacement instructions. But the literal reading of the Service Manual (subject to check) says you support the car, presumably on jack stands, and then support the engine using a jack and wood block under the oil pan and then start unbolting things. It is silent on lifting the engine - can this be right? |
07-23-09, 06:21 PM
| | Registered Member Cadillac(s): 2005 CTS-V | | Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Dallas Tx Age: 29 | | | Re: UUC Motor Mount Install Ques for Maggie-Equipped Cars
This would be a more time consuming approach I think. That's just two more bolts and another thing you are going to need to support. Since you are already supporting the engine with a jack why not just jack it up a couple times and put the mounts in? That way you can leave the sub-frame bolts alone and everything can be done on ramps if need be.
The sub-frame approcah just seems like adding a couple more steps that aren't required. |
07-23-09, 06:38 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 2005 CTS-V | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Spring, Texas | | | Re: UUC Motor Mount Install Ques for Maggie-Equipped Cars
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Originally Posted by 2003RC51 This would be a more time consuming approach I think. That's just two more bolts and another thing you are going to need to support. Since you are already supporting the engine with a jack why not just jack it up a couple times and put the mounts in? That way you can leave the sub-frame bolts alone and everything can be done on ramps if need be.
The sub-frame approcah just seems like adding a couple more steps that aren't required. | Do you need to remove the starter or cat on the passenger side to change the right side motor mount (as the Service Manual suggests)? |
07-23-09, 06:57 PM
| | Registered Member Cadillac(s): 2005 CTS-V | | Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Dallas Tx Age: 29 | | | Re: UUC Motor Mount Install Ques for Maggie-Equipped Cars
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Originally Posted by darkman Do you need to remove the starter or cat on the passenger side to change the right side motor mount (as the Service Manual suggests)? |
It will make it a little easier. I put the UUC's in and took them out with the starter in place so I know it can be done. As for the exhaust, I had my headers removed already so I really can't comment other than to say one guy that purchased my mounts installed them with headers still in place. Personally, I would just remove the manifolds/headers because the extra time spent trying to maneuver around them and get to all the bolts would not be worth it. | | Cadillac Discussion Tools | | | 
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