URGENT: For those who have the 561 Traction Kit

tweeter81 · #1 (**permalink**) 04-17-09, 03:39 PM

All,

I am currently having a shop install my 561 Motorwerks Traction Kit (KARS III) and they called and said that they think the whole damn thing is too small, almost like someone washed it and the whole thing shrunk (his words).

They tried to line up the mounting points on one side and it appears to be 1" too short.

My question is has anybody installed their Kit from the group buy last fall. I don't know how my bar could be wrong if it was made on a jig. I need to narrow the problem down to either, the shop is trying to install it wrong or the bar is actually too small.

Who has installed their kit and how did it fit/work? Any information would be much appreciated. Thanks.

AlmostAV · #2 (**permalink**) 04-17-09, 03:54 PM

wow, id contact nikon, who knows csp3000 pretty well. he would probably give you his cell phone contact info.

AlmostAV · #3 (**permalink**) 04-17-09, 03:58 PM

maybe your V is the rare "V - L" extended wheelbase

i know your situation sucks, but I had to take a little jab at ya!

CTSV_510 · #4 (**permalink**) 04-17-09, 04:02 PM

I can't imagine the kit is wrong if they're all the same. They made a couple dozen of them and so we would have heard by now if the kit was the wrong size.

lollygagger8 · #5 (**permalink**) 04-17-09, 04:04 PM

Say it ain't so! I bought one of those kits but have yet to install it.

They have got to be trying to install it incorrectly!

c4ss · #6 (**permalink**) 04-17-09, 04:38 PM

Lindsay put mine on with no problems whatsoever, and I credit it with greatly reducing my wheelhop. Call Luke...maybe he can help you figure out what your problem is.

nikon · #7 (**permalink**) 04-17-09, 06:14 PM

they've gotta be looking at it wrong......like you said they were all built on jigs..I'm sure you can PM chris he's still on the board.

tweeter81 · #8 (**permalink**) 04-17-09, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by nikon

they've gotta be looking at it wrong......like you said they were all built on jigs..I'm sure you can PM chris he's still on the board.

Yeah, I hear what you guys are saying, but I am just going off of what the shop owner is saying and he (and my car) is in Colorado and I'm in Wyoming, 300 miles away, so I can't just go and take a look. I already gave my guy Chris's cell phone number so he could talk over the problem with Chris or whoever actually built the kits and my shop guy has not gotten a response to his voicemails yet. I hope they get ahold of each other soon, because I gave the OK for my shop to go ahead and cut up the bar to make it fit, which is not going to be pretty, I'm thinking...

tweeter81 · #9 (**permalink**) 04-17-09, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by c4ss

Lindsay put mine on with no problems whatsoever, and I credit it with greatly reducing my wheelhop. Call Luke...maybe he can help you figure out what your problem is.

Was your Kit from the same group buy as mine? I believe the Kits were delivered back in last November, or maybe October. Or was it an original KARS Kit?

rand49er · #10 (**permalink**) 04-17-09, 11:04 PM

I have one of the original KARS kits, and I had to enlongate a couple of holes on one side to get it to line up and go on. What a PITA! Another guy here (I won't say who) had to pry the crap out of his original KARS kit to get it to go on.

Hopefully, the installer are just whining a bit so you accept their bill a bit easier, and it's just a matter of a little elbow grease to install someone's aftermarket, built-on-a-budget-in-a-garage product.

CTS-Voodoo · #11 (**permalink**) 04-18-09, 01:58 AM

Actually my kars III didnt fit either. We had to slice it in a few places to make it line up. Thing was just a tad on the small side.

MauiV · #12 (**permalink**) 04-18-09, 02:02 AM

Maybe some Vs are getting longer from the friction induced heat.

tweeter81 · #13 (**permalink**) 04-18-09, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CTS-Voodoo

Actually my kars III didnt fit either. We had to slice it in a few places to make it line up. Thing was just a tad on the small side.

Well, I'm glad to hear my shop guys aren't crazy. I just have a hard time accepting that these kits don't fit right from the get go. They are marketed and sold as a direct bolt-on. I feel like I (or anyone who had to put in extra fab work) should be refunded a portion of the cost of this kit. I budgeted for this install to take 4 hours and IMO, anything over that due to having to do extensive work to make it fit should be covered by the seller of the item. I would have never bought this kit in the first place if I knew it was going to be a $1500 cluster-f (only $640 of that being the actual cost of the kit + shipping).

csp3000 - if you are seeing this please pm me or post here and let me know your thoughts. I am not trying to run you through the mud, but would it have been too much to ask to randomly test fit a couple of the kits that went out the door to make sure they actually fit?

CTS-Voodoo · #14 (**permalink**) 04-18-09, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tweeter81

Well, I'm glad to hear my shop guys aren't crazy. I just have a hard time accepting that these kits don't fit right from the get go. They are marketed and sold as a direct bolt-on. I feel like I (or anyone who had to put in extra fab work) should be refunded a portion of the cost of this kit. I budgeted for this install to take 4 hours and IMO, anything over that due to having to do extensive work to make it fit should be covered by the seller of the item. I would have never bought this kit in the first place if I knew it was going to be a $1500 cluster-f (only $640 of that being the actual cost of the kit + shipping).

csp3000 - if you are seeing this please pm me or post here and let me know your thoughts. I am not trying to run you through the mud, but would it have been too much to ask to randomly test fit a couple of the kits that went out the door to make sure they actually fit?

A partial refund? Puhlease. Go fast parts NEVER fit right. Its the fun of customizing.

tweeter81 · #15 (**permalink**) 04-18-09, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CTS-Voodoo

A partial refund? Puhlease. Go fast parts NEVER fit right. Its the fun of customizing.

I'm sorry that I actually want to get what I paid for. I don't know your situation, but here is mine:

I'm not rich, I have to save up for all my mods and I have to choose every mod that I do to my car very carefully to get the best bang for my buck, whether it be performance or cosmetic. I guess it would have been nice to hear from someone that these Traction Kits were not guaranteed to fit my car (every single other mod I have on my car has fit flawlessly with no modifications) and that most of them will have to be cut and spliced and bent up to work. That doubles the cost of installation. I am just guessing at what my shop is going to charge me over the original 4 hours install time, but I am betting it will double that. For that money, I could have had a complete C6 Z06 Clutch Kit (Clutch, Pressure Plate, Flywheel, and new Slave cylinder) from Luke, which I am also really in need of. I am just frustrated that no attempt to test fit, even one of these kits, was made. If I had been told in the thread where all these kits were being sold that there is a really good chance that the bar will have to be completely modified to fit, I absolutely would never have bought the kit in the first place (knowing that the installation cost would be huge compared to the value of the part itself), that is where my problem is.

I don't want a refund on the price of the kit, but would like some money back to help pay for the cost of the actual modifications (fabrication) of the kit just to make it fit. My shop guy said that when they put a bolt in one side, the bar was 1.5" - 2" short from being able to put the other bolt in. That is not even close to what it should be...