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08-04-08, 12:35 AM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): Cadillac  | | | | | Re: Traction Kit Group Buy info "Upgraded KARS Stage III Kit"
I've sent an email, a pm, and called you about this kit and had no response. Please get back to me |
08-04-08, 12:48 AM
|  | Cadillac Owners Enthusiast Cadillac(s): 2007 Escalade, 2010 CTS V soon... =) | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: West Palm Beach, FL Age: 35 | | | Re: Traction Kit Group Buy info "Upgraded KARS Stage III Kit"
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Originally Posted by atdeneve  Chris, do the kits come with the aluminum spacers and, if we have Specter bushings installed, can they work in conjunction with the Kars Kit or will the aluminum spacers replace them? Thanks. | The kit will work with the Specter Bushings. Quote:
Originally Posted by jpoole Hi, is there any problems when running the B&B 3" exhaust? Looks kinda tight and BMR has issues.
Thanks | I had a B&B Exhaust on my V and had no problem it at all. |
08-04-08, 12:53 AM
| | Cadillac Owners Enthusiast Cadillac(s): 2007 Escalade, 2010 CTS V soon... =) | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: West Palm Beach, FL Age: 35 | | | Re: Traction Kit Group Buy info "Upgraded KARS Stage III Kit"
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Originally Posted by 04vman I've sent an email, a pm, and called you about this kit and had no response. Please get back to me | I am sorry if I had not responed back yet I have been slammed with emails for the kit. I will get back to everyone by tomorrow.
Chris
561 Motorwerks chris@561motorwerks.com
561-358-4558 |
08-04-08, 12:56 AM
|  | Cadillac Owners Enthusiast Cadillac(s): Cadillac CTS-V (2006) | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada | | | Re: Traction Kit Group Buy info "Upgraded KARS Stage III Kit"
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08-04-08, 11:57 AM
|  | Drive It. Break It. Build it Better Cadillac(s): Platinum 2004 CTS-V | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Indiana | | | Re: Traction Kit Group Buy info "Upgraded KARS Stage III Kit"
What about just the BMR Anti Wheel Hop Bushings only? W/O the cross bar?
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08-04-08, 12:16 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): 05 Silver CTS-V | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SW Wisconsin | | | Re: Traction Kit Group Buy info "Upgraded KARS Stage III Kit"
Does it basically eliminate wheelhop or does it eliminate wheelhop?? Thanks. |
08-04-08, 12:35 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Enthusiast Cadillac(s): 2007 Escalade, 2010 CTS V soon... =) | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: West Palm Beach, FL Age: 35 | | | Re: Traction Kit Group Buy info "Upgraded KARS Stage III Kit"
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Originally Posted by By By C Ya Does it basically eliminate wheelhop or does it eliminate wheelhop?? Thanks. | I had no wheel hop. I had 500 RWHP and 470 RWTQ and I drove my care very hard and again had no wheel hop. Check the vid in the begining. |
08-04-08, 12:35 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Enthusiast Cadillac(s): 2007 Escalade, 2010 CTS V soon... =) | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: West Palm Beach, FL Age: 35 | | | Re: Traction Kit Group Buy info "Upgraded KARS Stage III Kit"
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Originally Posted by lollygagger8 What about just the BMR Anti Wheel Hop Bushings only? W/O the cross bar? | It will work with the bushing.  |
08-04-08, 01:50 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): 05 Silver CTS-V | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SW Wisconsin | | | Re: Traction Kit Group Buy info "Upgraded KARS Stage III Kit"
Does it affect ride quality?? And I seen that it doesn't wheel hop at a tire smoking 4200 rpm clutch drop, but what about at a launch for a drag race?? Say around 2500 rpm or so. Sorry for all the questions and thanks in advance for the answers. I am highly interested in it if it does what I need it to do. Thanks again.
Last edited by By By C Ya; 08-04-08 at 02:01 PM.
Reason: More info.
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08-04-08, 02:42 PM
|  | Mods on hold till diff gets fixed. Cadillac(s): 2005 CTS-V | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: South Lyon, MI Age: 60 | | | Re: Traction Kit Group Buy info "Upgraded KARS Stage III Kit"
Personally, I know of no series of tests that anyone's performed with a KARS III install on a V using a variety of tires, with various wear conditions, on a variety of road surfaces, at a variety of temperatures, all with different moisture levels on the road to see what effect on wheelhop the kit has. These data just don't exist.
The point is, I guess, that the kit is not a panacea or a cure all, just a decent crutch for most situations.
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08-04-08, 03:11 PM
|  | Let Me See Your War Face!!! Cadillac(s): 05 CTS-V | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mile High Age: 29 | | | Re: Traction Kit Group Buy info "Upgraded KARS Stage III Kit"
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Originally Posted by rand49er Personally, I know of no series of tests that anyone's performed with a KARS III install on a V using a variety of tires, with various wear conditions, on a variety of road surfaces, at a variety of temperatures, all with different moisture levels on the road to see what effect on wheelhop the kit has. These data just don't exist.
The point is, I guess, that the kit is not a panacea or a cure all, just a decent crutch for most situations. | I'm not meaning this to sound rude, but if the data doesn't exist, on what basis did you come to your conclusion with?
Just playing devils advocate here. 
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PENDING installs: 2.6" blower pulley, Hawk HPS. FUTURE MODS: FI Cam, Headers, 160 T-Stat.
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08-04-08, 03:22 PM
| | Drive It. Break It. Build it Better Cadillac(s): Platinum 2004 CTS-V | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Indiana | | | Re: Traction Kit Group Buy info "Upgraded KARS Stage III Kit"
What's that round piece stuck in between the diff and that bracket of your kit? 
Last edited by lollygagger8; 08-04-08 at 03:42 PM.
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08-04-08, 03:50 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): None | | | | | Re: Traction Kit Group Buy info "Upgraded KARS Stage III Kit"
When I threw the stuff on the car for pictures, I was too lazy to take the top 2 bolts out of the pinion to bolt the support up. I stuck the washers in the back to space the pinion support out to about the correct distance to put the plate at the angle it will be at when installed for real. Quote:
Originally Posted by lollygagger8 What's that round piece stuck in between the diff and that bracket of your kit? | |
08-04-08, 04:24 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Enthusiast Cadillac(s): 2007 Escalade, 2010 CTS V soon... =) | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: West Palm Beach, FL Age: 35 | | | Re: Traction Kit Group Buy info "Upgraded KARS Stage III Kit"
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Originally Posted by By By C Ya Does it affect ride quality?? And I seen that it doesn't wheel hop at a tire smoking 4200 rpm clutch drop, but what about at a launch for a drag race?? Say around 2500 rpm or so. Sorry for all the questions and thanks in advance for the answers. I am highly interested in it if it does what I need it to do. Thanks again. | Ride quality was not effected with the kit. Also to answer your second question I draged my car all the time at Moroso Motorsports Park here in Florida and launched at many different RPM's ranging from 2200 to the insane 4900 with a stock rear end "mind you I only did the 4900 one once" and had the same results with the kit. No Hop. I was running the stock tire and wheel setup with the kit in the begining and then switched and again same results. |
08-04-08, 04:32 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): 05 Silver CTS-V | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SW Wisconsin | |  Re: Traction Kit Group Buy info "Upgraded KARS Stage III Kit"
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Originally Posted by csp3000 Ride quality was not effected with the kit. Also to answer your second question I draged my car all the time at Moroso Motorsports Park here in Florida and launched at many different RPM's ranging from 2200 to the insane 4900 with a stock rear end "mind you I only did the 4900 one once" and had the same results with the kit. No Hop. I was running the stock tire and wheel setup with the kit in the begining and then switched and again same results. | Then you can count me in. It won't be this month, this month is Corsa month, but next month is KARS month. I like taking my mods slow to keep it exciting. If you do it all at once, your jones'n so bad for more. Oh, and the money thing. | | Cadillac Discussion Tools | | | 
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