Would I better of getting a maggie or.......

[Kmajecki]

Originally Posted by rand49er

If it took Ken 12 hrs to do his install, it took me all of 30+ ...

I started at about 7pm on a Friday night, and finished right at noon the next day. I did sleep for about 3 hours of that time, so i guess the math works out to 14 hours total. I was excited and couldnt wait!

Also, i looked up the tracking numbers of when i shipped maggie off to her new owner. It took 4 packages total, 76lbs, 49lbs, 7lbs, 11.6lbs totalling 143.6lbs, so 150 was actually a really close guess! Now that weight did include an extra magnavolt, FRC's, ashtray gauge pod w/2gauges, i think that's all the extras that were in there. I think the maggie alone was the 76lbs. I believe the new strut tower brace was the 7lbs..

That weight does include the box, packaging etc... I shipped maggie off to magnuson twice for rebuild issues, and i remember the weight being 60-80lbs. Maybe some of the guys with the same issues have a better idea on the weight. Point is, she may be heavy but she's still hot.

[jweymar]

Originally Posted by CTSV_Rob

The answer to the question is both.

Seriously though, I was geared up to go head/cam until I got the deal from Rick. If you have an LS6/LS2 there is a boat load of parts out there for it and I found some articles where they were putting down some serious horse power with a Cam Swap and some Impressive gains in torque if you change the heads and Cam.

Maggie for me for now.







So you got 458 RWHP with just the Maggie and a tune??? Which pulley do you have, the 2.8 or 2.6??

I 've got headers so I wonder what kinds of gains I should expect, hmmmm.

I have the 2.8 stock maggie pulley.

[CTSV_Rob]

Wow, nice.

[lunarx]

I'd have to say that Charlie's tune is a big factor in those great results.

His Dynomite puts a C5 Z06 at 330.
Therefore, it's not a high reading dyno.
For instance, my 499WHP was on a DynoJet and read quite a bit lower on Charlies Dynomite.
Those Maggie numbers are a wake up call for me to ditch my lame Fast 78 and get with a better H/C program.

Maggie appears to deliver.

[Luna.]

Originally Posted by CTSV_510

qqik4u, rand49er are both making about 480 rwhp with M112 w/2.8 pulley and full exhaust. You can get more boost with a 2.6 pulley.

I don't recall anyone here with that kind of N/A power.

To be honest, I'd be careful cross-comparing dyno results. I've seen a lot of dyno runs in So Cal and Arizona and I've never seen 480 rwhp from a 2.8" pulley (most I've seen have been in the 440-450ish range after a tune). Some of us with 8" balancers/2.6" pullies would have a hard time seeing 480 rwhp on "our" dynos.

A dyno is a tool only. Just make SURE you get a stock run, then a run after you install the maggie. That way, you'll be able to measure the results.

Don't get too caught up in dyno numbers across the country--I'm not sure they mean all that much. Different dynos read differently.

I do agree that similar power from an N/A LS6 is NOT that common. Maggie is probably an easier route to go to get higher numbers.

Originally Posted by By By C Ya

OK, you guys talked me into a Maggie, but do you agree that headers aren't benificial with a supercharger?? Or do I just go with the maggie and a cat back?? Thanks for all the helpful info!!

I would have a hard time believing that. Andy at A&A struggled with that idea when I asked him as well...

Paradoxically, I'm not running headers, as I've run headers on previously owned cars and I do NOT want the hassle. Granted, I'm told that the hassle isn't as bad as it once was with muscle cars, but that wasn't fun & it brings back bad memories. As such, I'm perfectly fine with the stock manifold and no hassle at all.

Originally Posted by lunarx

I'd have to say that Charlie's tune is a big factor in those great results.

His Dynomite puts a C5 Z06 at 330.
Therefore, it's not a high reading dyno.
For instance, my 499WHP was on a DynoJet and read quite a bit lower on Charlies Dynomite.
Those Maggie numbers are a wake up call for me to ditch my lame Fast 78 and get with a better H/C program.

Maggie appears to deliver.

Charlie from A&A/L.A.P.D.?

[CTSV_Rob]

I will be happy with =>460 RWHP / =>450 RWTQ with the 2.6 pulley and Headers.

[lunarx]

Originally Posted by Luna.

...
Paradoxically, I'm not running headers, as I've run headers on previously owned cars and I do NOT want the hassle. ...

Charlie from A&A/L.A.P.D.?

Yes, Charlie Wiliams of RPM Motors (his own shop).
His competitors, LAPD and A&A both use him for tuning, sometimes.
You got to be good, for your own competitors to use you.

Luna is right, Headers are a hassle.
I have them, but would ditch them if I could.
Maybe the 09V Exhaust Manifold could be a suitable alternate.

Originally Posted by CTSV_Rob

I will be happy with =>460 RWHP / =>450 RWTQ with the 2.6 pulley and Headers.

I bet you would.
I'm going to hold out hope that you refrain from methanol adiction.

BTW - I can almost gurantee that there are other dynos that will read Jeymar's car at 480+ WHP
(DynoJet for instance, as well as that Dyno at the Cadillac Experience)

[CTSV_Rob]

That would have read his car at 500+ probably.

Will be checking into Methanol to see if it makes sense for me to do.

[Luna.]

Originally Posted by lunarx

Yes, Charlie Wiliams of RPM Motors (his own shop).
His competitors, LAPD and A&A both use him for tuning, sometimes.
You got to be good, for your own competitors to use you.

LOL. Apologies, he was tuning my car at A&A before he went out on his own with RPM motors, so he'll always be "Charlie from A&A" to me, but you are 100% correct.

[rand49er]

Originally Posted by lunarx

... Luna is right, Headers are a hassle. ...

For some maybe.

But, beyond that, when inhaling with a maggie, they allow the motor to exhale as well as it can thereby maximizing the gains. For the record, I've had no issues in nearly two-and-a-half years and about 20k miles.

[thebigjimsho]

Originally Posted by rand49er

For some maybe.

But, beyond that, when inhaling with a maggie, they allow the motor to exhale as well as it can thereby maximizing the gains. For the record, I've had no issues in nearly two-and-a-half years and about 20k miles.

And you've just jinxed it...

[rand49er]

Originally Posted by thebigjimsho

And you've just jinxed it...

Superstitious are we? Not ME!

No header problems here.







(At least, I've got my fingers crossed. )

[CTSV_Rob]

The B&B's have treated me well and if I had to do headers over again on this car would I??? Oh hell yeah.

Make everything flow better and a good tune to compliement the configuration and you have a great setup.

[CTSV_Rob]

No matter which route you take (NA or FI) Headers are always a good idea to me.

[jweymar]

Going to have to find me a dynojet for some ego/braging rites!