Bolton Mods and cam only RWHP?

[rand49er]

Originally Posted by peedeerooster

Well, thought I would let you guys know what I decided. I gave Vengeance Racing a deposit yesterday to order all the parts. I have an appointment for May the 7th. I am doing a Volant CAI, ported 90MM throttlebody, Ported fast intake, Trickflow 215CC CNC heads, Yella terra roller rockers, hardened pushrods, VRX3 camshaft, ASP pulley, Kooks headers with catless connection pipes and a corsa resonator with h-pipe connected to the rest of the stock catback. I will let you guys know what she dynos after it is done. Anybody want to guess, because I will post the numbers. I will not be ashamed of what it does.

Whoa! You're doing some serious business there ... looks good! BTW, do you have a "before" dyno to really nail down your gain?

(Comin' to the party late here, but gotta say kudos to Chris on that writeup. )

[trukk]

Originally Posted by peedeerooster

Well, thought I would let you guys know what I decided. I gave Vengeance Racing a deposit yesterday to order all the parts. I have an appointment for May the 7th. I am doing a Volant CAI, ported 90MM throttlebody, Ported fast intake, Trickflow 215CC CNC heads, Yella terra roller rockers, hardened pushrods, VRX3 camshaft, ASP pulley, Kooks headers with catless connection pipes and a corsa resonator with h-pipe connected to the rest of the stock catback. I will let you guys know what she dynos after it is done. Anybody want to guess, because I will post the numbers. I will not be ashamed of what it does.

Vengance has been putting down some phenominal numbers over on LS1Tech. Should be a screamer when you are done. I'm guessing 440 rwhp.

We are going to be very similar, less the Trick Flows of course. Cam's are damn close, and most of the other bits are the same. Are you doing anything for fueling? You;ll either need more injector, or a boost-a-pump at that HP level.

Originally Posted by rand49er

Whoa! You're doing some serious business there ... looks good! BTW, do you have a "before" dyno to really nail down your gain?

(Comin' to the party late here, but gotta say kudos to Chris on that writeup. )

Thanks . My Car is finally at the shop getting my cam and the other bits installed. I hope to have it back by late Sunday. I'll definately post my results.

-Chris

[JonCR96Z]

I'm gonna say 457rwhp and 433rwtq assuming dynojet. For Trukk I'll guess 435rwhp/398rwtq - mustang dyno.

[trukk]

Originally Posted by JonCR96Z

I'm gonna say 457rwhp and 433rwtq assuming dynojet. For Trukk I'll guess 435rwhp/398rwtq - mustang dyno.

The Mustang that will be used for tuning right now has me at 355 rwhp (not sure the tq, becuase I don't have that dyno sheet.)

I'll be happy with 390, but hopping for 400+.

On the dyno on my sig I'd say 415 would make me happy. I'd be bouncing off the walls if I saw a +55 rwhp from this install .

-Chris

[peedeerooster]

I will ask them if they will do a before pull on the dyno.

[HushH]

Sounds like a great combo. I'll got out on a limb and say 470/450.

[JonCR96Z]

Originally Posted by trukk

Thanks . My Car is finally at the shop getting my cam and the other bits installed. I hope to have it back by late Sunday. I'll definately post my results.

-Chris

We're waiting...

[rangerrob]

Trukk, any news on the install???? anxious to see the results!

[trukk]

GOT MY CAR BACK!

I've got no numbers yet though

Basically, I got everything installed, and have a rough tune on the car. My tunner was very backed up and couldn't get it on the dyno yet to dial that in.

He did but a baseline tune, for the injectors, etc. to get it to idle, then did a drive around test to put a rough tune on the car. So far I've driven it about 60 miles, and no CEL yet, which is good . The car is set to idle right now around 975 rpm's, so that obviously needs to be tweeked. Depending on my appointment with Lindasay to get the UUC prototypes installed on my car (set for Wednesday right now, but still wating on the Motor mounts to be shipped, trans mount is already there). If Lindsay get's pushed back, then I'll try and get the car in this week. If not, then I probably won't get the car fully tuned and have numbers untill next week.

Initial impressions are good. I have my lost TQ back (from the FAST 90/90 install) and then some . Car feel very responsive from 2500+. With the idle set at 975, it suprisingly has very little lope, which I was a bit concerned about with a 111 LSA cam. You can definately tell it's not stock, but it doesn't have that 'WTF is in that car!' sound, which again is good (it's a caddy). We'll see how hard it lopes after the idle is brough back down.

It does surge a abit , when the clutch is depressed, while the car is moving (up to about 1800 RPM's), but that's something that will get mopped up with the final tune.

At low RPM's in a low gear, going slow ( say 20 mph in 2nd at about 1500 RPM), I can definately hear my new injectors CLICKING away. I always liked the way my buddies Viper did that at low RPM. We'll see how I feel in a few months . The rest of the valve train is quiet as stock, which was a pleasant surprise. I expected to be able to here some of the new valve train components clacking around. *Hopefully*, this will not change, as I was somewhat dreading getting the 'sewing machine' sound. Perhaps my anal retentiveness with components paid off , agai, we'll see over the next few hundred miles, as it breaks in.

I have yet to go WOT, waiting for the final tune, but so far, so good . This morning at cold start, it definately has more bark, and more lope, than stock, and when I first started it up yesterday, while it was somewhat hot.

I'll start a new thread, once I have some numbers.

-Chris

[peedeerooster]

Trukk, post up your numbers when you get them. I know you can't compare them to mine because vengeance has a dynojet. That alone will make them at least 20rwhp higher even though it's really not. When I get mine back from vengeance on May the 9th, I will see if I can get them to email the graph and I will post it up in case anyone else is considering doing H/C/I like I am. I know any one considering it would like to know what they can get with the like mods I am doing. I know I would like to see when looking. Even though we don't have a rear to drag race, I will take it to the strip and at least get the trap speed. That is the real indicator of horsepower anyway. So, I will take it and roll out and see what it will do in the 1/4 mile trap speed wise.

[JonCR96Z]

Most mustang dynos will be right with Dynojet numbers with a value of 4000lbs entered for vehicle weight. I'd say within 10rwhp. Still too many other factors to truly compare dynos numbers though.

Another thing is that you have to leave so easy at the dragstrip that it will hurt your mph too.

[peedeerooster]

Guys, thought I would update you on what happened. When the car was finished at Vengeance, it only pulled 430/400 sae net and Mike told me the Corsa midpipe and stock catback was holding the other parts that I bought back. Since I was 9 hours from Vengeance, I got another shop to install the Magnaflow Xpipe and catback. They pulled the car and horsepower was in the 440's, but the injector duty cycle was high and the car was pulling timning to 22 degrees. He ordered as set of 42 lb injectors. I took the car back last Thursday for him to install the new injetors and retune it. Guess what, 465rwhp/437rwtq sae net. I also had a UUC shifter and Lindsay bushings installed. I am very happy now. It really is impressive to be all motor. If anyone want the exact list of modifications, I can list them, just ask. Thanks

[CTSV_510]

Originally Posted by peedeerooster

Guess what, 465rwhp/437rwtq sae net... If anyone want the exact list of modifications, I can list them, just ask. Thanks

Yes, please!

[peedeerooster]

Hope I haven't forgot anything. I will start from the cold air and got to the exhaust tips.

Volant cold air
descreened maf
Vengeance ported 90MM trottlebody
Vengeance ported 92MM fast intake
42lb SVO injectors
Trickflow 215 CNC ported heads
Yella Terra roller rockers
Vengeance VRX3 camshaft
Underdrive pulley
Kooks 1 3/4" jet hot headers
Magnaflow offroad xpipe
Magnaflow Catback
Final tune was at Carolina Speed shop in Conway, SC using EFI live software.

I think that is it. If I left something out and remember it, I will come back and modify the post. If this package had more cam and did not have the heavy flywheel and rear we have, I think it would push 500hp. But, you know the CTSV needs more torque, thus the VRX3. I now have 380+ ft/lbs of torque at 3000 RPM. Torque is over 400ft/lbs at around 3400 RPM. It will really push this car effortlessly. Also, if you roll into the throttle at around 2000 RPM in 2nd gear, when the tach gets to around 5000 rpm, it is spinning the tires in second gear. I though that was impressive for a naturally aspirated 346. Also the torque peaks at 4700rpm and horsepower peaks at only 6200 RPM. Torque stays over 380 ft/lbs from 3000 RPM to 5800 RPM.

[trukk]

Originally Posted by peedeerooster

Hope I haven't forgot anything. I will start from the cold air and got to the exhaust tips.

Volant cold air
descreened maf
Vengeance ported 90MM trottlebody
Vengeance ported 92MM fast intake
42lb SVO injectors
Trickflow 215 CNC ported heads
Yella Terra roller rockers
Vengeance VRX3 camshaft
Underdrive pulley
Kooks 1 3/4" jet hot headers
Magnaflow offroad xpipe
Magnaflow Catback
Final tune was at Carolina Speed shop in Conway, SC using EFI live software.

I think that is it. If I left something out and remember it, I will come back and modify the post. If this package had more cam and did not have the heavy flywheel and rear we have, I think it would push 500hp. But, you know the CTSV needs more torque, thus the VRX3. I now have 380+ ft/lbs of torque at 3000 RPM. Torque is over 400ft/lbs at around 3400 RPM. It will really push this car effortlessly. Also, if you roll into the throttle at around 2000 RPM in 2nd gear, when the tach gets to around 5000 rpm, it is spinning the tires in second gear. I though that was impressive for a naturally aspirated 346. Also the torque peaks at 4700rpm and horsepower peaks at only 6200 RPM. Torque stays over 380 ft/lbs from 3000 RPM to 5800 RPM.

AWESOME NUMBERS!

I need to get some heads

-Chris