| 2004-2007 Cadillac CTS-V Performance Mods Discuss all Cadillac CTS-V performance modifications here. Engine tunes, exhaust, intake, suspension and more. | Cadillac Forums: The final word on retrofitting the '09 differential 
05-30-08, 02:46 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): 05 maggied CTS-V, 03 maggied Z06 | | | | | Re: The final word on retrofitting the '09 differential Should be "subscribed and supporting member".
I look at the replacement gas tank as an opportunity to:
1. Hold more fuel.
2. Access and replacement of the fuel pump (something bigger or stronger for maggie guys)
Bang for the buck, this mod sounds like it will address the major complaint and with "factory parts".
Relatively cheap.
__________________ I am so expensive I can't even afford to hire me.... | 
05-30-08, 04:22 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 05 V -Blk/Blk/Blk Corsa exhaust, UCC, K&N, Kooks Headers, | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bradenton FL | | Re: The final word on retrofitting the '09 differential As the others had already said - You (and Luke) get a great big ATTABOY for attacking this issue so doggedly. (Just remember though, that one AW Shit, wipes out a thousand ATTABOYS!!  Seriously, great job; of course you're not done yet, don't ya know!!  I think Luke"s idea of custom axles is the way to go, as it obviously allows us to use the wheels, brakes and hubs we have (save money for more go-fast goodies) and would also allow possibly upgrading the u-joints on the half shafts even further.(just in case a LS-7 w/122 maggie showed up at the gun fight, don't ya know!!  | 
06-27-08, 12:50 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): Cadillac CTS-V | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY | | | Re: The final word on retrofitting the '09 differential bump | 
06-29-08, 07:27 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): '05 CTS-V, '00 SLS, 98 SLS, 89 Eldo, '80 Eldo | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NYC Age: 38 | | | Re: The final word on retrofitting the '09 differential Anybody have a ballpark figure yet?
__________________ '05 Platinum l LPE CAI l Magnaflow l V1 (hardwired), w/ custom mount l UUC shifter w/Lindsay bushings l UUC leather shift knob l K9 GEAR rear seat cover l CruiseCam l HID fogs l Falken RT-615s l Hotchkis sways W/Z06 end links l Billet A/C vent knobs l Hawk HP+/HPS l CG-Lock l Specter Werkes Bushings l Noah Custom cover l FG2s l Ground control 550/600 l MAGGIE 436RWHP/ 412RWTQ (Dynojet) l Heavys fire extinguisher bracket l Intercepter scan-gauge l Billet pedals l Meth l NO HEADERS | 
06-29-08, 08:11 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): 05 maggied CTS-V, 03 maggied Z06 | | | | | Re: The final word on retrofitting the '09 differential If you peruse back a few pages, I think it was hovering between $5k-6k but they are still working on the parts list.
I don't expect it to run much more then a maggie (installed).
What I expect to add up is changing the front hubs to a five bolt to match (if we end up having to) and if that is the case, rims and different tires.
The magnetic suspension would be a neat trick to (I wish). I bet that has a lot to do with the elimination of wheel hop. Just "lock it up" and ride the throttle. | 
06-30-08, 04:34 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): Twin-Turbo Bimmer/C6Z06 Hunting... | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: MN>ND>MN>SD>IL>MN>IL Age: 41 | | | Re: The final word on retrofitting the '09 differential Seems the shocks are doable. They don't need to be integrated with the chassis controller for V1. Simply flip the "launch" mode toggle switch on the dash. Just need to figure out the trigger signal voltage. And that part is easy with a service manual.
The '09 update is the classic cost/value trade off. And yet another opportunity for GM Performance Parts to offer a factory blessed, DIY weekend bolt-on kit. | 
06-30-08, 05:02 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): 05 maggied CTS-V, 03 maggied Z06 | | | | | Re: The final word on retrofitting the '09 differential Yeah I look forward to them dropping the ball on this to. Quote:
Originally Posted by StealthV Seems the shocks are doable. They don't need to be integrated with the chassis controller for V1. Simply flip the "launch" mode toggle switch on the dash. Just need to figure out the trigger signal voltage. And that part is easy with a service manual.
The '09 update is the classic cost/value trade off. And yet another opportunity for GM Performance Parts to offer a factory blessed, DIY weekend bolt-on kit. | | 
06-30-08, 05:20 PM
|  | Drive It. Break It. Build it Better Cadillac(s): Platinum 2004 CTS-V | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Indiana | | | Re: The final word on retrofitting the '09 differential Bet those magnetic ones will be a pretty penny!
__________________ Monster Stage 3 Clutch & 18 lb flywheel, B&B headers w/ hi flow cats, B&B xpipe & catback, Lingenfelter CAI, UUC Gen II Motor Mounts/Trans Mount/Shifter/Shifter Bushings/Diff Bushing, Hotchkis Sways, BMR Trailing Arms & AWH Bushings, Hawk Pads, GM Assy Wheels, Stock Wheels, Drilled GM Rotors, Hendrix Axles, CAGS Elim, '06 Diff w/updated pinion, Clear Fogs DDM bulbs, Clear Sidemarkers, CTS center console, Tuned by Brent @ EPP on mustang dyno @ 378rwhp/366tq | 
06-30-08, 10:00 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): Kooks,MOMO seats,C5 hubs,3489# | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ashland, Ohio | | | Re: The final word on retrofitting the '09 differential The C5 corvette(and C6 as they are using stronger C5 axles) uses the same number of splines as the V on the outer or hub side . This allowed me to bolt up C5 hubs on my V along with BMW wheels. The axle shaft diameter is identical between the C5 & V. Not sure about the number of splines into the diff.
Norm | 
06-30-08, 11:13 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): Twin-Turbo Bimmer/C6Z06 Hunting... | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: MN>ND>MN>SD>IL>MN>IL Age: 41 | | | Re: The final word on retrofitting the '09 differential Just went and snapped a photo. If my count is right (where I my bifocals?) it's a 27-spline on the diff side.
Ja, ja, but what's the diameter?
The battery is dead in the calipers and I'm not digging out the old school version tonight (see bifocal note above).  | 
11-08-08, 11:33 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): maggied platinum '05 V | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: tucson, az Age: 23 | | | Re: The final word on retrofitting the '09 differential Any Updates? This is a huge and important thread | 
12-15-08, 06:12 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Enthusiast Cadillac(s): '04 CTS-V, '97 AWD Talon, '86 Fiero, K5 Blazer, '68 Corvair | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Cheyenne, WY Age: 24 | | | Re: The final word on retrofitting the '09 differential Anything new on this? | 
12-15-08, 07:01 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 2004 CTS-V | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Leesburg, Florida | | | Re: The final word on retrofitting the '09 differential Luke and I spoke just the other day. I'm getting two CTS-Vs tomorrow (2009 models), at which time I'll be snooping around underneath them during the PDI process and comparing the length of the driveshaft and bolt pattern on the flange that bolts to the rear with a Gen.1 CTS to see if that's reusable.
As discussed earlier, the parts that will absolutely be necessary for this to be "bolt on" are the fuel tank, rear cradle, diff itself, new axles and a modification to the upper spring mounts for the rear. The driveshaft is still a question mark, and having custom axles made will definitely be the way to go (as opposed to replacing the hubs/rotors/wheels for the 09 parts).
I'll update here tomorrow.
__________________ Tony Pagano
Plaza Cadillac
Leesburg, FL
(352) 408-0391 www.cadillactony.com The views and opinions of this poster are solely his own and do not represent those of Plaza Cadillac
Last edited by Cadillac Tony; 12-15-08 at 07:08 PM.
| 
12-15-08, 07:11 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): Cadillac cts-v | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: issaquah | | | Re: The final word on retrofitting the '09 differential Quote:
Originally Posted by Cadillac Tony Luke and I spoke just the other day. I'm getting two CTS-Vs tomorrow (2009 models), at which time I'll be snooping around underneath them during the PDI process and comparing the length of the driveshaft and bolt pattern on the flange that bolts to the rear with a Gen.1 CTS to see if that's reusable.
As discussed earlier, the parts that will absolutely be necessary for this to be "bolt on" are the fuel tank, rear cradle, diff itself, new axles and a modification to the upper spring mounts for the rear. The driveshaft is still a question mark, and having custom axles made will definitely be the way to go (as opposed to replacing the hubs/rotors/wheels for the 09 parts).
I'll update here tomorrow. |
You and Luke are Da man... | 
12-16-08, 01:57 AM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 2005 CTS-V, 2005 Escalade EXT, 2007 Escalade EXT | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sandbox, Kuwait | | | Re: The final word on retrofitting the '09 differential This woud be interestin...I know the new diff has more bolt points for better stability. Versus one that we have now...
It may be worth your while if you are out of warrantee and changin diffs quicker then you change clothes... | | Cadillac Discussion Tools | | |
Cadillac Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off
Censor is OFF | | | |
|