clutch slipping =[ (guess the upgrades start now...) - Page 2

darkman · #16 (**permalink**) 08-13-07, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystical_Ice

so i should do tom peacock? ok... will do. only reason i'm so determined that i need a rental car is that i'm a good half hour drive from the dealer, and probably work close to an hour away, so it's imperative i have a car

should i ask to see Darrel McCormick? should i say i know you and that you suggested him?

also, as far as getting the flywheel, short shifter, etc... i was going to have my friend's shop do it, because they specialize in LS engines, and work on Mustangs, Corvettes, and Vipers all day long, they even have two Ford GTs that are always having work done on them, and I know and trust the guy that owns the shop. Also I know he won't rip me off on labor. Parts i was going to buy myself (more than likely from Lindsay, because i've heard a lot about them, and i want to give them a shot at pricing, customer service, etc.), but i want to make sure the dealers would know what they're doing. would they warranty the WORK they do? if the shifter's loose, etc. a few weeks afterward would they cover it?

yeah i was going to just do clutch and shifter, but i wanted to do the flywheel at the same time

should i not worry about the slave cylinder?

exhaust, headers, etc. are not something i have either the time, desire, or resources, to take care of now.

ultimately what i want to build up is a relationship with the dealer, where they (or someone in service) knows me, and i know them, so i can call them and say "hey *whoever*, what's up. my car's broken, can i bring it in?" "sure thing man, bring it by!" kind of thing.

september is when i would be taking the car to them. and i hope i could get a loaner car then.

i'm going to have to drive to the woodlands today, so should i maybe stop by tom peacock and talk to them today about the warranty issues, and maybe schedule a time to bring the car in? if they can do it today and give me a loaner, i'll do that in a heartbeat...

now the shifter, flywheel, and clutch is going to have to wait a few weeks :-/

Yes, I would stop by and see McCormick at Tom Peacock about your existing warrany issues but not the clutch since you are going have it done elsewhere. You can find out their policy on loaner cars at the same time.

Assuming that you have the clutch/flywheel/shifter done by another shop then Tom Peacock, or any other dealer for that matter, cannot be expected to make adjustments on it free of charge. However, if you have a relationship with Tom Peacock you at least have my case as an example where the dealership allowed aftermarket clutch parts to coexist with a warranty. You do not need my name at this point, but you might mention that the dealer ship recommendation came from the Caddillac forum. I have frequently referred to the Forum as my source of information.

Good luck.

Mystical_Ice · #17 (**permalink**) 08-13-07, 11:59 AM

yeah well obviously if the dealer doesn't do the install of the flywheel, clutch, and short shifter, i wouldn't hold that against them, lol. i meant if they install it (which i may have them do, to kind of help build up a relationship, you know) that i'd expect them to warranty the work.

any work i have done at my friend's shop i KNOW will be warrantied, but i may bite the bullet and pay a little more to have the dealership do it, just so we can work together a bit and build up that relationship... HOWEVER, i want you to tell me (convince me) that they know what they're doing, and i'm not going to get a car back with a loose shifter or anything

darkman · #18 (**permalink**) 08-13-07, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystical_Ice

yeah well obviously if the dealer doesn't do the install of the flywheel, clutch, and short shifter, i wouldn't hold that against them, lol. i meant if they install it (which i may have them do, to kind of help build up a relationship, you know) that i'd expect them to warranty the work.

any work i have done at my friend's shop i KNOW will be warrantied, but i may bite the bullet and pay a little more to have the dealership do it, just so we can work together a bit and build up that relationship... HOWEVER, i want you to tell me (convince me) that they know what they're doing, and i'm not going to get a car back with a loose shifter or anything

Well they seem to know what they are doing, but I have not had them do anything complex yet. I will know more by the middle of September once they do my clutch/flywheel install. At this point I am committed to that dealership and if they make a mistake I will have to let them fix it. I will not change dealerships unless and until they make a mistake and refuse to make good on it. At this point I do not anticipate that happening because they seem to be competent and are certainly courteous. Bottom line is my recommendation is based on the facts that I have already provided, but comes with no bullteproof guaranty. Life involves uncertainty, what else can I say.

Mystical_Ice · #19 (**permalink**) 08-13-07, 01:57 PM

yeah i don't expect a guarantee, but you said exactly what i was hoping you would: that you haven't let them do anything complex yet, but what they HAVE done, SO far, has been good.

I'm leaving the office right now, going to see what they say... i'll let you know.

Mystical_Ice · #20 (**permalink**) 08-13-07, 04:30 PM

OK so i spoke to McCormick; spoke to him briefly about the warrantied items, and then a bit more about the aftermarket stuff (flywheel, shifter, and clutch specifically). He said he had a guy that was coming in September (and he mentioned your name) to get that done, and that he'd already put a shifter on.

I said yes, that same person he's referring to is the one that referred me here and to him, because Tom Peacock has such a good reputation with customer service and reliability.

Anyway what he suggested I do though, was go to McGinning, on I10, because it's a lot closer to where I work, and he said chances are he wouldn't be able to get me a loaner because they only have 8, and they save those for cars that are getting totally reworked, not just a few warrantied items (which i agreed with him on, it makes sense). He said anything that he can do, McGinnis will do just as well.

Soooo i think what i'm going to do is wait till you get your shifter, flywheel, etc. done, and then hopefully you can tell me how the process went, and maybe we can meet up so you can take me for a drive in it? (i'd like to see the difference in acceleration with the flywheel), and also i'd like to just see how the shifter feels (with the car off and emergency brake on of course), if that's OK with you.

maybe we can do that at a 'meet' or something. which reminds me, when are we all going to get together...

darkman · #21 (**permalink**) 08-13-07, 05:55 PM

I don't know. Post a time and place to the Houston meet thread and see who is interested? I will try to make it. My weekends are tough get free except for Saturday mornings, which are usually open.

Mystical_Ice · #22 (**permalink**) 08-13-07, 08:40 PM

well let's do a saturday morning then.

my weekends are complicated too...

fredcook · #23 (**permalink**) 08-14-07, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystical_Ice

barely over 15,500 miles. and i haven't abused it much. to date i've never popped the clutch at 6000 RPMs. i always ease off of it, etc.

That's not that many miles. I have 39k on mine, and it has experienced a lot of 'spirited' driving, and almost daily stop and go driving (a lot of clutch activity).

As someone else mentioned, a weak/worn clutch shows its first signs of slippage at higher gears/speeds. Are you experiencing this?

Mystical_Ice · #24 (**permalink**) 08-14-07, 02:35 AM

no not at all... the only time i noticed it was at the lower... right out of 1st gear, i guess because i revved the engine too high before releasing the clutch pedal (slowly though, and never more than like 3500RPM...)

could there be another problem?

Rey · #25 (**permalink**) 08-14-07, 11:54 AM

My own experience with a slipping clutch face is that it first manifests itself in top gear, not in first gear. If it is not slipping in top gear, I wonder?

If the clutch grabs after a "pump" of the pedal perhaps what you are doing is pumping up the hydrallic clutch, meaning that the root of your problem is a leak in the clutch line.

Mystical_Ice · #26 (**permalink**) 08-14-07, 06:13 PM

well i don't know if a mere pump fixed it. at the same time as i pumped the pedal, i also dropped it into neutral, wagged the shifter left and right a couple of times, then popped it back into 1st.

haven't had that problem since, but it scared the crap out of me.

trukk · #27 (**permalink**) 08-16-07, 01:13 PM

Hmm,

While I didn't read this entire post, this is the first time I've heard anyone really talking about a slipping clutch. I have 56K on mine, and it's still solid. On my 4th Diff, 2nd Transmission, but orig clutch is still going fine.

Good luck, and tell us what you find.

-Chris