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2004-2007 Cadillac CTS-V General Discussion Discussion, 1st oil change in Cadillac CTS-V Series Forum - 2004 - 2007; With everyone reporting shavings in the oil on the first change, do you guys think that 750 miles is the ...
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    1st oil change

    With everyone reporting shavings in the oil on the first change, do you guys think that 750 miles is the right time to have the first oil change on my V? Is this too early or too late?

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    Re: 1st oil change

    everyone has their own opinion on 1st oil change. i was told to do mine on the first 500. than i ended up doing at 600. thats just me...

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    Re: 1st oil change

    Personal opinion, having nothing to do with GM recommendations: I'd change the engine, transmission, and final-drive oils at somewhere between 1000-2000 miles.

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    Re: 1st oil change

    I took my 04 CTS 3.6 lux sport in to Penske Cadillac in Torrance CA. where I live for it's first oil and filter change today 3ooo miles , no charge for any thing, big shipment of new CTS's came in while I was there , sadly no CTSV's all new ones have the painted rear bezel looks much cleaner.

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    Re: 1st oil change

    How did you swing that? I purchased my V from Penske last friday. How did you get a free oil change?

    P.S. do any of you socal CTS (v or non V) guys want to get together and chat sometime?

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    Re: 1st oil change

    penske. hehehe... what you think about their customer service? cause they sure suck with penske mercedes. hopefully cadillac is better.

    add: what does the stock painted rear looks like? does it look like the ones they are selling on ebay?

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    Speaking of Oil changes... for the V..

    http://www.ajusa.com/cgi-bin/knfilte...rt_num=HP-1007

    This is the K&N filter. 8.99 free shipping. I bought 3.
    Prices here are pretty good.

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    Re: 1st oil change

    I posted this in another thread yesterday...

    doing the first oil change before the scheduled interval is bad..... Main thing is because during the first 3000ish miles, the most wear during break in occurs...

    This wear causes all these little things to be in the oil. Normal..... However, its done by 3000 miles, therefore changing the oil BEFORE this time will cause a certain amount of metal to circulate untli the NEXT oil change...

    So IMO its best to go the full time the first oil change, and you can do whatever you want from there out...

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    Re: 1st oil change

    Wes, I'm trying hard to figure out your line of thought. I'll give you my thoughts and way of doing it.

    Change at 500 miles. You want to remove the larger debris. then.....
    change at 1000 miles if you drive it like it was meant to. Most engines will take until 3000 miles to break in, but engines driven harder and at higher rpms will obviously break in quicker. OBTW, 1 trip to the drag strip and your car is broken in.

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    Re: 1st oil change

    I sorta agree...

    However, the debris is big enough that it will ALL be gone by 3000 miles and it will be in the filter...

    Your not doing any harm by changing the oil later, and IMO your probably doing MORE harm when you do it SOONER... This isnt speculation, Ive heard it from engineers..

    I dont think what your doing is WRONG, more/less I think its unnecessary. Either way I dont think its gonna make enough difference to go one way or the other. Might as well go the cheaper route!!

    This made me think, Im going to start a new thread in the general non model specific forum......

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    Re: 1st oil change

    Quote Originally Posted by lasstss
    Speaking of Oil changes... for the V..

    http://www.ajusa.com/cgi-bin/knfilte...rt_num=HP-1007

    This is the K&N filter. 8.99 free shipping. I bought 3.
    Prices here are pretty good.
    Any particular reason to use this over the AC Delco (factory) One (<$5)?

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    Re: 1st oil change

    Quote Originally Posted by elwesso
    I sorta agree...

    However, the debris is big enough that it will ALL be gone by 3000 miles and it will be in the filter...
    I would disagree.

    Quote Originally Posted by elwesso
    Your not doing any harm by changing the oil later, and IMO your probably doing MORE harm when you do it SOONER... This isnt speculation, Ive heard it from engineers..
    So if changing it 2x, 3x or 4x (getting out all the debris) by the time the scheduled 1st change IS supposed to take place (10k?) lets you sleep better at night then the cost per change is peace of mind.

    Harmful I doubt.

    YMMV
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    Re: 1st oil change

    When I bought my CTS it was Morran Cadillac Penske took over a few months ago. and they are in the process of remodeling the place. The coupon for the free oil service was given when I bought the car but I under stand they are still doing it. Other manufacturers do it.good cust-relations. I was impressed that they opened a case of mobil 1 and put in 6 individual qts most places use bulk oil.

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    Re: 1st oil change

    First oil change at 2000 miles, Mobil 1.

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    Re: 1st oil change

    Unless, there is a specific break in lube in the original oil, there is no reason to leave this oil in the motor. When you change the oil at anytime, there is always residual, at least 1/2 cup. If it has contaminates they will recirculate. THe more oil changes the better. Filters also have a limit, if they get crapped up they go into bypass anyway so no filtering takes place. You would have to get some pretty large or abrasive fragments floating in the oil to cause problems. If a motor has issues, you know it right away. Especially now that flat tappet cams are not used.

    On the K&N, its marginally better than the AC Delco, for a 50K car whats 2-3 bucks extra. I do agree that by spec and all of the investigation done the AC delco and Purolator are on top of the heap. Fram is at the bottom..

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