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Gas prices are an all time high. They are supposed to keep climbing. Do you think they will scrap the BIG MOTOR rumored for 2007?? I hear the new M5 has 500HP! I was hoping we would stay ahead of that car. Will we still get the LS-7 or BLUEDEVIL motor? I pray they drop the Blue Devil motor in. I wonder when the spy shots will come out?
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Re: Will High Gas Prices Mean Less Horsepower?

From a marketing standpoint, GM knows that anyone in the future buying cars in the LS-7 price range will pay the price at the pump. GM knows from the European experience that there will be market for high performance cars regarless of price at the fuel pump. Europe has had 4 dollar plus prices at the pump for years.
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I'm good until it gets over $5.00 a gallon. Until then, I'm driving in gallons per mile.
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Re: Will High Gas Prices Mean Less Horsepower?

Big motors are not exactly inefficient. Compare the V's current motor to the RX8s or the Evos. They are almost 1/3rd the size but get the same or worse gas mileage (if you compare it to the LS2).

I don't see the LS7 being mass produced and be widely used like the LS2 is. I see them dropping it into certain vehicles and the V might be one of them. It also might be an upgraded motor for the V.
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Re: Will High Gas Prices Mean Less Horsepower?

Why do you think there is a "gas guzzler" tax?

The funny thing is, like SUV's, mileage is not usually the deal breaker, but it is the first thing the owners complain about.

Go figure!
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Re: Will High Gas Prices Mean Less Horsepower?

Most ppl that buy vehicles like those (M5) could more than likely care less about the price of gas. They may hate it but it wont deture them from buying the vehicle. (Most cases at least.)
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Re: Will High Gas Prices Mean Less Horsepower?

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Why do you think there is a "gas guzzler" tax?

The funny thing is, like SUV's, mileage is not usually the deal breaker, but it is the first thing the owners complain about.

Go figure!
There isn't a GGT with the LS2, which proves my point. The LS2 is more economical than rotary in the RX8 or the Evos 4 banger. The LS6 is just as economical.

The government needs to treat light trucks the same way they treat cars. I'm mostly concerned with the lack of pollution standards. When people have to pay $100+ per fill up for their light truck, they will dump them. Heck if they have a 40 gal tank like some older ones do, they are already there.

But as the price of gas goes up, EVERYTHING will go up. Unlike European countries, our country is gigantic and we don't have a good mass transit system. Until this country builds a reliable, cheap, efficient public transportation system, people will continue to drive their cars.
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Re: Will High Gas Prices Mean Less Horsepower?

Those "pollution" standards are the first things to fix in getting the price of gas DOWN!

We don't need the vast # of different "blends".

It is the distribution costs involved with this FIASCO that is the easiest thing to "fix".
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Re: Will High Gas Prices Mean Less Horsepower?

How much is too much to pay in order for you to play with your toys? Cut a few corners to make sure you get the weekend V-cruises in.
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Re: Will High Gas Prices Mean Less Horsepower?

Even if gas prices went to $5/gal from say $2.50/gal. If one uses a tank (~15 gals) per week of gas, it's about $2,000/year increase. If one can afford a $50,000 toy they likely can afford the extra $2K/year for gas, or simply drive it a little less. For me, $2K/year extra for gas isn't going to stop me from driving . . . . V6, V8 or otherwise. One sail on my boat costs much more than that!

There are still a lot of Hummers, Escalades, Tahoes, F250s, etc. on the road where I live! I'd rather drive a V than a Suburban, any day. If you gotta pay through the teeth for gas, you might as well do it in style and smile while you're doing it!
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Re: Will High Gas Prices Mean Less Horsepower?

the main problem is our lovely government.......last memorial day(?) the 1 pipeline we had going to the west coast broke.....hmmm 1 pipeline for the thirstyest state?........now we have had a hurricane mess up New Orleans area A tragedy for sure.........and lo and behold.........convienient.........now the ONE refinery in the U.S. is not working........HMMMMMMMM.....whats next.......a tragic jello failure that shuts down another part of the ONE system that provides us with fuel? Sounds a little fishy to me.....being in the oilfield business.......
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Re: Will High Gas Prices Mean Less Horsepower?

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Why do you think there is a "gas guzzler" tax?

The funny thing is, like SUV's, mileage is not usually the deal breaker, but it is the first thing the owners complain about.

Go figure!
The loophole with SUVs and such never ceases to amaze me....

I agree though---mileage isn't generally the deal-killer.
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Re: Will High Gas Prices Mean Less Horsepower?

we're being gouged. As long as we need our vehicles to do whatever, the easier it is for these ate-up third world oil producing b.s country's and oil companys to justify these artificially high gas prices. I could care less how much it cost to refine, trade and ship. the Bastards have us by the balls and we know it.
urr, I have to fill up in the morning.
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Re: Will High Gas Prices Mean Less Horsepower?

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Even if gas prices went to $5/gal from say $2.50/gal. If one uses a tank (~15 gals) per week of gas, it's about $2,000/year increase. If one can afford a $50,000 toy they likely can afford the extra $2K/year for gas, or simply drive it a little less. For me, $2K/year extra for gas isn't going to stop me from driving . . . . V6, V8 or otherwise. One sail on my boat costs much more than that!

There are still a lot of Hummers, Escalades, Tahoes, F250s, etc. on the road where I live! I'd rather drive a V than a Suburban, any day. If you gotta pay through the teeth for gas, you might as well do it in style and smile while you're doing it!
$2k is still a lot of money, unless you are like Randy Moss. It isn't just the money you spend at the pump. Increase the price of gas by 50% in one year increases the cost of all goods. Heating bill comes to my mind first. I would be happy to pay extra at the pump if I knew it was going towards something good (like helping the Gulf Coast) but it'll only make the oil companies richer.

I almost laughed at watching Bush being pissed off when he went to Mobile, Alabama trying to push the blame somewhere else. What did he do when the hurricane was coming towards the Gulf Coast the whole weekend? Oh well, his buddy's pockets are heavier now.
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Re: Will High Gas Prices Mean Less Horsepower?

I'm beginning to hope it will mean less HP. Gives me a better chance...
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