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    Another wheel hop thread

    Ok I have read what I found I understand why I have this condition, it is also unbearable. 3rd gear in the rain getting on the highway I almost chipped a tooth.

    My question is can we still go to the dealer and have them put in the stiffer bushings as the tsb says if we are out of warranty? Has anyone tried this? Or do we have to bite the bullet and buy aftermarket ones?

    I don't mind doing things myself but if I could get a recall fix done for free ill take that any day.

    Thanks guys

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    Re: Another wheel hop thread

    The GM bushing in TSB was a failure - it did not reduce wheel hop and introduced significant noise. Many, perhaps most, who tried them ultimately took them out.

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    Re: Another wheel hop thread

    Get the revshift poly cradle bushings. Many have reported they are a near total cure for hop.

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    Re: Another wheel hop thread

    I have read this however I wish to know if anyone has recently gone to gm for the tsb fix? Last posts about it were several years ago. Free stiffer bushings would be nice. Happy to upgrade other things later if necessary.

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    Iirc the tsb was for the 4/05s only by 2006 gm put different diff bushings
    When I had my 07 in the dealer there was no wheel hop tsb on the 07
    Go with axles and cradle bushings , the 2 will elimate 95 percent of your hop

    I went with Hendrix axles first and they elimated 50-70 percent of the hop
    I since then have purchased cradle bushings from revshift

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    Re: Another wheel hop thread

    It won't hurt to ask a dealer, but I don't think the installation of GM bushings, assuming the parts are still available will be "free." It is a Technical Service Bulletin, not a NHTSA recall. A TSB tells the dealer how to respond to (make repairs for) a specific customer complaint but it is not a mandatory fix.

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    Re: Another wheel hop thread

    Quote Originally Posted by darkman View Post
    It won't hurt to ask a dealer, but I don't think the installation of GM bushings, assuming the parts are still available will be "free." It is a Technical Service Bulletin, not a NHTSA recall. A TSB tells the dealer how to respond to (make repairs for) a specific customer complaint but it is not a mandatory fix.
    Ok thanks. I figured as much but I may call a few dealers anyways. If a phone call saves me $300 and a day or two it's worth trying. Too bad it wasn't a recall!

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    Re: Another wheel hop thread

    Quote Originally Posted by seeyouinajif View Post
    Ok thanks. I figured as much but I may call a few dealers anyways. If a phone call saves me $300 and a day or two it's worth trying. Too bad it wasn't a recall!
    See attached.

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    Re: Another wheel hop thread

    Quote Originally Posted by seeyouinajif View Post
    I have read this however I wish to know if anyone has recently gone to gm for the tsb fix? Last posts about it were several years ago. Free stiffer bushings would be nice.
    No, this is old information and faulty logic. Listen to darkman. He is one of the main experts on this forum and knows this car better than almost anyone else.

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    Ok thanks. I figured as much but I may call a few dealers anyways. If a phone call saves me $300 and a day or two it's worth trying. Too bad it wasn't a recall!
    It doesn't matter. The GM TSB fix doesn't work. The revshift cradle bushings work. Do that instead. Honestly, are you even reading what people are writing to you?

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    Re: Another wheel hop thread

    Quote Originally Posted by darkman View Post
    See attached.
    Yeah I read that which led me to start this thread. Apparently I value aggressive driving ha. I'm wondering when was the last time someone got this done for free.

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    Re: Another wheel hop thread

    Quote Originally Posted by HAMSTAR View Post
    No, this is old information and faulty logic. Listen to darkman. He is one of the main experts on this forum and knows this car better than almost anyone else.

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    It doesn't matter. The GM TSB fix doesn't work. The revshift cradle bushings work. Do that instead. Honestly, are you even reading what people are writing to you?
    I was reading what people were saying, doing this on my iPad and missed dark mans original reply just saw yours. Other threads said 75% cure, read about noise but not anyone removing the fix. Not my first car or forum. . . But my first iPad.

    Thanks for the info guys.

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    Re: Another wheel hop thread

    Wheel hop in this car is better than traction control and stability control combined. It will keep you from doing anything stupid in the rain in 3rd gear. My stock '05 diff has survived 80k maggied miles and counting and I get equal mileage from my front and rear staggered width tires.....
    ..... I love wheel hop! Keeps me from doing stupid things in 3rd on dry pavement.

    If you want to light up the tires put in an 8.8 or 9" or buy a different car. My '96 Impala SS was the king of burnouts, powerslides, drifts........ it's a good thing I got those out of my system. 2 sets of rear tires to each set of fronts was getting old.
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    Re: Another wheel hop thread

    Seems to be a combination of a few things. I have the BMR AWK (cradle crushers and bar) and the CS diff block with CS bushing on Pirelli P Zero Nero all seasons, 275 40 18s.


    LOL but seriously... From what I've seen, seems it varies based on tire, suspension setup, and driver. Some don't seem to ever encounter it. Some seem to always encounter it even at odd times.

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    Re: Another wheel hop thread

    Here's another it's-a-waste-of-time comment: GM cradle bushings were not effective. As free as they were, they were a waste of time.

    My Spectre Werks cradle bushings plus the Hendrix/DSS axles have been 99+% effective in eliminating WH. Get the current equivalents of these (Revshift and Gforce), and (to quote Naf) call it a day.
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