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2004-2007 Cadillac CTS-V General Discussion Discussion, 3rd Gear Issue in Cadillac CTS-V Series Forum - 2004 - 2007; Okay for starters my car has 56k miles and I have had my PISSNUOFF short with UUC bushings throw installed ...
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    3rd Gear Issue

    Okay for starters my car has 56k miles and I have had my PISSNUOFF short with UUC bushings throw installed for a couple months now.

    My car is starting to give me quite a bit of trouble downshifting into 3rd gear, which it never had issues with before. If im doing about 65-70 on the highway and want to downshift to 3rd to pass someone (or accept someones challange on the highway haha) it will not go into 3rd anymore.

    It doesnt grind or anything, if i push extremly hard it will go into gear. Its never had this issue before nor has it ever had the common issue of not getting into 1st either.

    It really only seems to do this when downshifting from 6th to 3rd or 5th to 3rd, it will go 4th to 3rd like butter.

    ALSO tranny fluid was changed at 42k

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    Re: 3rd Gear Issue

    check your UUC bushings. On my car they did not fit too we'll and started slipping out of the metal holders. that would be my first guess

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    Re: 3rd Gear Issue

    I see the same issue at times and during a track day it became really difficult to downshift into third. Since then I have changed the trans fluid to amsoil but still seeing the issue.

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    Re: 3rd Gear Issue

    when was the last time you bled your clutch?

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    Re: 3rd Gear Issue

    Is it easier if you double-clutch the shift?

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    Re: 3rd Gear Issue

    If i double clutch it still does it. If i REALLY push it will go into 3rd but it doesnt feel very good pushing it that hard. I have never bleed my clutch, but when i bought the car at 42k miles they did change the clutch fluid.

    Maybe like a month ago or even less i sucked out the dirty clutch fluid in the reservoir and put some fresh fluid in, was i supposed to bleed it after that?

    Im gunna head outside and take the shifter knob and boot off to see if theres anything going on with the UUC bushings, im hoping its something simple like that.

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    Re: 3rd Gear Issue

    Wow.....Just removed my boot and the top bracket above my shifter. My bushings were fine and still in place. The 2 1/4-20 bolts that were supplied with the PISSNUOFF shifter that replaced the rivets were there, but the locknut and nut underneath were gone on both bolts. Im thinking this may have been the culprit.

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    Re: 3rd Gear Issue

    The white plastic peice that clips onto the white pivot ball seems kind of loose, It isnt falling off but it isnt super tight. I dont remember if it was this way when i first installed the shifter or something got messed up when these nuts fell off.

    Anyone remember if that white clip that goes over the pivot ball is kinda wobbly or is it supposed to be pretty tight?

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    Re: 3rd Gear Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by mcline86 View Post
    Maybe like a month ago or even less i sucked out the dirty clutch fluid in the reservoir and put some fresh fluid in, was i supposed to bleed it after that?
    bleeding will make a big difference in how your car shifts.

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    Re: 3rd Gear Issue

    Does it at least engage with a rev-match?

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    Re: 3rd Gear Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by KaMaSuTrA View Post
    Does it at least engage with a rev-match?
    doesnt matter where the revs were, it just wouldnt go in unless i pushed it way harder then i should ever have to. I think the nuts and lockwashers i found missing may have been the problem, i have yet to take it on the highway tho.

    Quote Originally Posted by repenttokyo View Post
    bleeding will make a big difference in how your car shifts.
    All i did was replace the clutch fluid in the reservior, i didnt do a full clutch fluid change. Are you saying i was supposed to bleed my clutch after only replacing couple ounces that are in the reservior?

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    Re: 3rd Gear Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by mcline86 View Post
    All i did was replace the clutch fluid in the reservior, i didnt do a full clutch fluid change. Are you saying i was supposed to bleed my clutch after only replacing couple ounces that are in the reservior?
    Bleeding replaces all the fluid in the Master and slave cylinders along with all the lines and reservoir. Just replacing the fluid in the reservoir does not and you end up with a mix of old and new fluid

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    Re: 3rd Gear Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by mcline86 View Post
    All i did was replace the clutch fluid in the reservior, i didnt do a full clutch fluid change. Are you saying i was supposed to bleed my clutch after only replacing couple ounces that are in the reservior?
    if you haven't done it since purchasing the car - don't know how long you have owned it - bleed out all of the old fluid (as stated above) and replacing it with new fluid will really improve the shifting of the vehicle. It made a huge difference in my car - I was at the point where it wouldn't go into first OR reverse.

    It's not an easy job, as the bleed screw is located in a difficult to reach location, but it is well worth doing. you will also get rid of any air that has been sucked into the clutch over time from out mysteriously evaporating clutch fluid.

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    Re: 3rd Gear Issue

    I have owned the car for less than a year, the clutch fluid was changed by the dealership when i bought it and has never been low from evaporating clutch fluid.

    Since getting the nuts and lock washers back on, I was driving my car all day today. It actually still locks me out of 3rd gear, but only at highway speeds when i am in 5th or 6th gear cruising and want to downshift to 3rd. SOMETIMES if i rev it up and then push into 3rd it will go. Deff doesnt seem right i can drop right down into 4th from 6th with no rev or anything it just pops in.

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    Re: 3rd Gear Issue

    it's not normal at all. you shouldn't have that problem with third.

    what do you have to lose from a clutch bleed? it's less expensive than the next step, which would be getting the syncro rebuilt, I think.

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