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Old 07-01-09, 09:48 PM
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Yea guys, I seriously doubt i'd be experiencing this if i had just gone through Hendrix, so take it from me, they are the ones to buy from. Im lucky as the V isnt my DD and i am still having fun with just the one axle, but it certainly would have been nice to swap it all out at one time vs having to do it all again. Hendrix, im pretty convinced they just shipped a bad CV, i dont think there's much else to do other than wait until Monday and give them a call right? I dont want to disassemble it any further and give them an opportunity to say i caused the problem, which i doubt they would do but just to be safe. Im hoping they'll just swap me for the smaller axle, but i will keep everyone posted. I really appreciate your offers to help me even though i bought elsewhere, says a lot guys!
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Yea guys, I seriously doubt i'd be experiencing this if i had just gone through Hendrix, so take it from me, they are the ones to buy from. Im lucky as the V isnt my DD and i am still having fun with just the one axle, but it certainly would have been nice to swap it all out at one time vs having to do it all again. Hendrix, im pretty convinced they just shipped a bad CV, i dont think there's much else to do other than wait until Monday and give them a call right? I dont want to disassemble it any further and give them an opportunity to say i caused the problem, which i doubt they would do but just to be safe. Im hoping they'll just swap me for the smaller axle, but i will keep everyone posted. I really appreciate your offers to help me even though i bought elsewhere, says a lot guys!
They will difently take care of it ! however You will be in the line of all the dss customers,and they service many many people so it may take a few days to get to you,which is only fair as they are servicing many customers.If you want to get it to me i can get it in my line which is alot shorterLOL,i should be able to get it taken care of and sent out the same day,they are coming off a week break so it will be backed up but i will be able to get it done in half the time.I understand if you want to go threw them ,just trying to help out.
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Old 07-02-09, 01:36 AM
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that's definitely a BURNOUT, NICE!!!! I know what I am saving for.
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That's how a mofo burn out is done! Sounds sick!!
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Re: DSS AXLE INSTALLED ONE SIDE ONLY - Video

very nice burnout.

my 2nd vacation this mth didnt hurt so bad so i think after the 4th i might bite the bullet.

( i did a burnout of my wife and when it hopped she was like WTF is that?)
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... ( i did a burnout of my wife and when it hopped she was like WTF is that?)
"See, honey?!! If I don't get those new axles, I might break something next time."


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Re: DSS AXLE INSTALLED ONE SIDE ONLY - Video

fyi the larger axles on the v2 as well as on the zr1 are on the drivers side. i bet they did it for a reason, but hey, glad the dss axle on the passenger side is satisfying you.

thats what i been trying to say.. there is a nitch for people that are not making 1000hp, and just want a wheel hop fix.
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Re: DSS AXLE INSTALLED ONE SIDE ONLY - Video

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fyi the larger axles on the v2 as well as on the zr1 are on the drivers side. i bet they did it for a reason, but hey, glad the dss axle on the passenger side is satisfying you.

thats what i been trying to say.. there is a nitch for people that are not making 1000hp, and just want a wheel hop fix.
My research indicates that the V2 solution uses a 55mm (2-1/6 inch) hollow shaft on the driver's side and a 35mm (1 3/8 inch) solid shaft on the passengers side. Based on that information I am not sure whether GM has the stronger V2 axle on the driver's side or not.

The Hendrix-Engineering axles, I believe use solid 300M on both sides.
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Re: DSS AXLE INSTALLED ONE SIDE ONLY - Video

i dont think its a strength thing vs a twistiness thing.

the left rear has the least weight on it in a launch so is the most likely to spin, so you dont want a twisty (smaller dia) axle on that side to slip and send the 'snap' over to the other side beginning the hoppiness oscillation.

thats what i think. or at least this is part of the answer, the reason its still working for this guy is the other part, the part where the axles dont have the same natural frequency so the 'snap' going thru from one side to the other is kinda cancelled.

yep i vote that.
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Re: DSS AXLE INSTALLED ONE SIDE ONLY - Video

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i dont think its a strength thing vs a twistiness thing.

the left rear has the least weight on it in a launch so is the most likely to spin, so you dont want a twisty (smaller dia) axle on that side to slip and send the 'snap' over to the other side beginning the hoppiness oscillation.

thats what i think. or at least this is part of the answer, the reason its still working for this guy is the other part, the part where the axles dont have the same natural frequency so the 'snap' going thru from one side to the other is kinda cancelled.

yep i vote that.
I agree it is the realtive torsional characteristic of the two axles that we talking about. But again, I don't which of the two GM axles, the large hollow one or the small solid one - has the higher torsional characteristic. Additionally, I don't know necessarily that the "the left rear has the least weight on it in a launch". Finally, with a limited slip differential I am not sure that would matter.

In sum, you may be absolutely correct, but the factual support is not readily apparent to me.
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They will difently take care of it ! however You will be in the line of all the dss customers,and they service many many people so it may take a few days to get to you,which is only fair as they are servicing many customers.If you want to get it to me i can get it in my line which is alot shorterLOL,i should be able to get it taken care of and sent out the same day,they are coming off a week break so it will be backed up but i will be able to get it done in half the time.I understand if you want to go threw them ,just trying to help out.
Thanks Hendrix, i really appreciate it but DSS's help while slow, will be free, I can't imagine you'd be able fix this axle for free. I'll just wait it out until next week and see what they say. Only downside is the 6 week "Drag-n-Brag" at Texas Motor Speedway starts tomorrow. I've been tempted to go but then again, why go beat on my car in an 1/8th mile drag when an automatic 1990 Mustang GT with a cheap blower would likely kill me. I'll save it for the 1/4 mile track!

I must say that although this makes no sense, the car feels faster now! Maybe its a combination of the new diff fluid (man there were some chunks in there!), the axles, and a freshly tightened rear suspension; but the car seems to pick up faster and the steering feels tighter. When i went to remove the drivers side hub, i had my 18" breaker bar with a 24" pipe over it and was ready for battle. I get ready to turn it and the damn thing comes loose with little to no effort. This was definitely not the case for the passenger side, but man that's concerning how it got so loose. As far as i know the hubs have never been pulled off the car, so i wonder if it just worked its way loose? Either way glad it's fixed now, may be worth a $14 34mm socket to ya to check yours!
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thats what i been trying to say.. there is a nitch for people that are not making 1000hp, and just want a wheel hop fix.
You trying to say im not putting out 1000hp?! lol jk Yea i just wanted the fix if for nothing else confidence that the diff wont explode, not as easily at least.

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the reason its still working for this guy is the other part, the part where the axles dont have the same natural frequency so the 'snap' going thru from one side to the other is kinda cancelled.that.
It's my understanding that the thicker, longer, stronger DSS axle is supposed to go on the passenger side. Didnt we agree that this is how everyone has installed theirs?

To be honest im not really sure which way the driveshaft turns when the car is moving forward, but i would think the torque load of a hard launch would be the only thing that would put more of less weight on either side of the rear
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You trying to say im not putting out 1000hp?! lol jk Yea i just wanted the fix if for nothing else confidence that the diff wont explode, not as easily at least.



It's my understanding that the thicker, longer, stronger DSS axle is supposed to go on the passenger side. Didnt we agree that this is how everyone has installed theirs?

To be honest im not really sure which way the driveshaft turns when the car is moving forward, but i would think the torque load of a hard launch would be the only thing that would put more of less weight on either side of the rear
Well setting aside the theoretical discussion as to whether the Hendrix-Engineeing V1 solution mirrors GM's V2 solution - the facts on the V1 are clear. That is the stock driver's side axle is shorter than the stock passenger side axle - so you have no choice as to which Hendrix-Engineering (or DSS) axle goes where.
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Re: DSS AXLE INSTALLED ONE SIDE ONLY - Video

IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE WHAT SIDE THEY GO ON PERIOD!..GM had to pick a side they chose the driver,the smaller of our axles will hold a 1000 hp so there want be any problems,even if the car is a lil ruffer on the driverside the bars are more than up to the task!
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