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2004-2007 Cadillac CTS-V General Discussion Discussion, Tire Choices for STOCK sizes in Cadillac CTS-V Series Forum - 2004 - 2007; I'm about to roll over 15k (and 9 months of V ownership), I told myself if I can push the ...
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    Re: Tire Choices for STOCK sizes

    I'm about to roll over 15k (and 9 months of V ownership), I told myself if I can push the OEM F-1's to 15k I will try to, and I did (let's just say there isn't much tread left). I was on the fence before about the Toyo Proxes vs. the GS-D3, now I'm on the GS-D3 vs. Mich Pilot PS2 fence. When you factor in the (current) GY rebate price is close enough to not be a factor. Here's what I have discovered - Both perform very well in dry conditions, while the GS-D3 will achieve slightly faster laptimes (overall a better "performing" tire), it doesn't have the stable response (feel as planted) as the MPS2 - but this is supposedly a VERY minor disctinction/difference between the two. The GS-D3 will handle better in STANDING water (not sure how much of that I have to deal with - San Francisco's climate isn't known for torrential rains). They are about even in just plain wet road. The MPS2 is (supposedly) significantly quieter (less road noise) and I've heard that to be a medium to large factor (driver/car dependent) with the crappy roads we have around here. Both should last more than 15k, but (and here is what is currently winning me over - along with road noise) the MPS2 are non-directional so they can be rotated to all positions, this should extend their lives to an expected 20k, the GS-D3 can only be swapped front to back.

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    Re: Tire Choices for STOCK sizes

    benjet,

    I turned 17,600 miles today after 9 months as well. I've had two sets of runflats. My originals, plus Cal's used ones with about 85% tread life. Switched to the GS-D3's at the end of August and I am extremely pleased. I've lit these babies up many times and still can't see any signs of these tires giving in. I would estimate the tread life at 12-15,000 miles vs. 5-6,000 for the runflats. The ride is very nice, grip is excellent and noise is average to good. I do have to contend with standing water, especially this year and have yet to have the first hint of hydro-planing or any loss of grip. I do believe that once you get into the upper tier of tire makers you can't go wrong. The Bridgestones, Michelins and Goodyears are all great tires.

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    Re: Tire Choices for STOCK sizes

    Quote Originally Posted by benjet
    Uh yeah, that maybe ok for some other tires options BUT the GY EMT has really stiff sidewalls, which I don't *THINK* (off the top of my head here) will like the 7.5 width. Might have to re-check that with your local GY shop.

    I'm still back and forth on GS-D3 and the TOYO Proxes, I've heard good and bad from users of both, and now with the GY rebate price is similar as well.
    One of the more disappointing things with my old SHO was the unbelievably narrow rim width. I had a 16x6 wheel with a 215/60 16 tire. Now, I ran probably 5 different types of tires on that narrow rim. And the Goodyear GT+4 was the tire I ended up liking most and going back to. The reason was that the Goodyear had by far the stiffest sidewalls of the tires I tried. Stiff sidewalls are better for narrow rims.

    Going to next point. For autocrossing, I had 16x7.5" wheels with 225/50 16 BF Goodrich R1s mounted. And that was an unbelievable combo with all the suspension work that was done on the SHO. So if 225mm on a 7.5" wide wheel worked remarkably well, I wouldn't think twice about 245. It'll be fine.

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    Re: Tire Choices for STOCK sizes

    Quote Originally Posted by benjet
    Goodyear (STOCK) Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar EMT (run flat) - $328

    Bridgestone Potenza RE050 - $201
    Bridgestone Potenza RE050 XL - $203
    Bridgestone Potenza RE050A (run flat) - $263
    Bridgestone Potenza S-03 Pole Position - $224
    Dunlop SP Sport 9000 - $201
    Continental ContiSportContact 2 - $218
    Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 - $208
    Michelin Pilot Sport - $246
    Michelin Pilot Sport XL - $268
    Michelin Pilot Sport A/S - $247
    Pirelli PZero Rosso Asimmetrico - $215
    Pirelli PZero System Direzionale - $216
    Yokohama AVS ES100 - $168

    Added to the above list:

    NEXEN N3000
    Goodyear Eagle RS-A
    Goodyear Eagle F-1 (non-runflat, non-supercar)
    Falken Falken Azenis ST115
    Falken GR Beta FK-451
    Toyo Proxes (the SCCA World Challenge spec tire) in both race and street versions
    Nitto (choice of 2 models in the proper size)
    Hankook Ventus Sport K104

    I think there are even a few more...
    Now I know this is for information purposes and I want people to be fully informed, but..........If anybody EVER puts a set of Goodyear Eagle RS-As on their V, I will personally come down to smack them. I don't care if you live in Alaska, I'll be there. I do not understand how those things are still in existence. They were the stock tires on my dad's '95 Lumina LS. WAY too soft even for that car. C&D tested the latest Gen Eclipse and hated the handling.......until they found out it was mostly the RS-As. And that has happened with quite a few cars. They mention their hatred for the tire themselves.

    As for the Toyo Proxes that were run in the C&D challenge, those are the tires I may get next. But those are specifically the RA-1s. And those DO NOT come in our size. But you can get them in a 245/40 18.

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    Re: Tire Choices for STOCK sizes

    Pulling my foot out of my mouth here, the MPS2's are not offered (as of this moment) in the *absolute* STOCK size (referencing my own thread title - DUH!), would have to go 245/40/18. For anyone considering this route the GS-D3 are $211 (less the current offer rebate thing ~$20 tire) list from TR (not shipped installed etc.)for 245/45/18, while the MPS2 are on special (245/40/18 NOT XL) for $225.

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    Re: Tire Choices for STOCK sizes

    I finally caved and ordered a set of the GS-D3's while the rebate was still on. They go on next week. My OEM rears are as bald as bald can be. Just had full alignment done (in advance of the new rubber going on), Toe was off considerably (go figure) all the way around. I wish I had the alignment report the dealer did @ 3k to compare.

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    Re: Tire Choices for STOCK sizes

    Quote Originally Posted by ctsvett
    Not to thread hijack here, but:

    If you replace the runflat tires with non runflat, the guy at the dealer was telling me that you can possibly crush the Tire pressure sensor (~$300 ea) if you ever got a flat tire. Is this true?

    OEM tires are way too expensive for me so they are not an option, but I dont want to end up costing myself more later.

    Can the car be run without the Tire pressure sensors or will the car freak out? (I remember the guys running the silver state had a problem like this).. Can you disable the sensors or just stick the sensors in the trunk? What option do you have?

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    I crushed the sensor when one of my F1 runflat's failed and I had to drive 50 miles on the runflat (it does work as intended)

    The sensor's are very large and protrude inward towards the center of the wheel so any sharp impact or extended driving on the deflated tire will break the sensor; runflat or not.

    BTW, I pay about $100 per sensor thru my tire dealer.

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    Re: Tire Choices for STOCK sizes

    Between my GTO and SS I've ran a bunch of different tires. The GS-D3's were very good as are the S03's. But, I'd give the BFG KDW2's a slight edge.
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    Re: Tire Choices for STOCK sizes

    Has anyone checked out the BFGoodrich KDW2 245 45 18 as stock tire replacements? Only $165 each at tirerack.com without the road hazard warranty.

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    Re: Tire Choices for STOCK sizes

    Quote Originally Posted by LV_V
    Has anyone checked out the BFGoodrich KDW2 245 45 18 as stock tire replacements? Only $165 each at tirerack.com without the road hazard warranty.
    That follows my post well KDW2's will be the first set of replacement tires I get for sure.


    Like I said on my GTO I found that the GS-D3 and S03's were pretty comparable and very good tires. I'd say the GS-D3's look better and the S03's grip a little better. The KDW2's look the best of the 3 and seem to grip similar to the S03's, but I have the KDW2's on my AWD Silvy so I could be wrong; the other 2 I had on my GTO.
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    Re: Tire Choices for STOCK sizes

    The day I buy tires because the tread looks cool, I permit any of you to shoot me, beat me or kick me in the nads.

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    Re: Tire Choices for STOCK sizes

    Quote Originally Posted by thebigjimsho
    The day I buy tires because the tread looks cool, I permit any of you to shoot me, beat me or kick me in the nads.
    The tread and sidewall can effect the looks of the car a lot. On my GTO I switched from the factory KDW tires to GS-D3 tires and the appearance difference was huge.

    From what you say try some Michelin Sports, they perform very well, but I promise people will notice and will say the tires are ugly. I've seen guys that aren't appearance mod guys get rid of the Sports because they are ugly.
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    Re: Tire Choices for STOCK sizes

    Sorry man.. owned a lot of cars... owned a lot of tires... people have said a lot of NASTY things about me and my cars in my life... but they have NEVER TRASH-TALKED MY TIRES!!!

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    Re: Tire Choices for STOCK sizes

    Wasn't saying bad things about your car. Wasn't trying to rip on your tires in particular, but if you have Michelin Pilots, then I'm just saying what I've heard/seen myself. Great tires, just really ugly and even non-car people seem to notice that. If you put them on for the track and switch them out to drive home it's all good
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    Re: Tire Choices for STOCK sizes

    Kind of like asking people to a wine tasting who swear the boxed stuff tastes the best. Must be that plastic lining.

    If anybody told me the PS2 is ugly looking, I'd laugh in their face. That is what a performance tire is supposed to look like. To me, someone who knows better, it gets my notice like seeing a Ferrari would. I think the Continental ContiSportContact 2 V-Max is the meanest looking street tire on earth. The PS2 is pretty close to that.

    In fact, the GS-D3, T1-S/R and the Yokohama AVS Sport all look like downgrades to me. Unless you're dealing with treadless slicks, a tire with multiple continuous ribs usually has the best handling traits. The 3 I mentioned, along with the BFGoodrich T/A KDW2, all are great tires. They're just not the best. And I wouldn't let people who know nothing but how to rice up their rides tell me differently.

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