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    Question Brakes

    Did anyone change the brake pads yet?

    I understand the CTS-V has the F50 style Brembos, so would the pads for those calipers fit? Who knows the supplier for Cadillac’s OE pads and what is the part #?

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    Re: Brakes

    Good question.

    My brakes have been squeaking for a while now and I only have 5K on them. I havent abused them that hard! I wonder how much new pads are?

    Jonathan

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    Re: Brakes

    It seems that I wash off about a brake pad worth of brake dust per week. I'd not be surprised if they were low mileage items......Jon, at 5K are you still seeing a lot of dust?


    Doug

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    Re: Brakes

    F50 style Brembos?? Someone explain that, please.

    @ 8k I still have a ton of dust.

    -Ben

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    Re: Brakes

    Must be a reference to the brakes on a Ferrari F50.

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    Re: Brakes

    and how are the V brakes like those of an F50?

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    Re: Brakes

    1. The CTS-V front calipers are Brembo 4 piston.
    2. This caliper style is either called the Porsche "Big Red" type first used in the 928, or the Ferrari style from the (yes!) F40/50 . They are slightly different. Also pads vary slightly.
    3. Cadillac pads are made by ..........?
    4. Reputable pad manufacturers are Hawke, Pagid, EBC, Ferrodo, etc.... they all offer a great selection for either style.
    5. The picture shows the F50 style pad fromPagid. Can anyone confirm if it's identical in size to the CTS-V pad?
    6. I guess I could also just call one of the pad manufacturers. This should solve the issue
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    Re: Brakes

    TONS of brake dust. If I dont wash the car every week it just looks horrid! In fact I think the wheels could almost use a rub down DAILY there is so much dust. But the car sure does stop fast and I will glady pay the price of brake dust for that!


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    Re: Brakes

    Bad news is the V does not use the big reds nor the F40 calipers.
    Good news is, the front is an "off-the-shelf" Brembo caliper. This caliper is also used on the Viper, Lotus Esprit, etc. It's Brembo caliper model# 20.5187.30
    So pad are available right now!

    Front
    FMSI no: D592
    Thickness: 0.665

    Rear (This is a V proprietary pad )
    FMSI no: D1011
    THickness: 0.785

    Hawk is showing availablity: HB194

    THe Hawk HP might be a good pad to try, it's not known to be dusty, but (guessing here) it's probably not as aggressive as the stock pads.
    The Hawk HP+ is a great street/track pad... works well on the track, probably just as dusty as stock pads.

    I'll call PFC and EBC tomorrow and get there pad models too.

    (EBC Green's suck as far as performance, but no dust!)


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    Re: Brakes

    Noone likes ceramic pads?

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    Re: Brakes

    Yes, they are not the exact part# as the F40/F50 but they are of the F50 style (two piece trough –bolts) which is actually good $ wise. Differences are minor, but enough to require other pads. Thanks Dreamin for clarifying this.

    In the meantime I found this pic:





    Regarding pads in general, if you think people argue over Ford vs. Chevy or BMW vs. Mercedes you should listen to the "pros" argue over brake pads manufacturers and compounds. Lot's of opinions and almost religious believes, as well as sometimes personal experiences. So, either try them yourself ($?) or listen to someone you think you can trust.

    Its good to know there are lots of choices.
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    Re: Brakes

    I ran the Hawk HP+ pads. They are fantastic. This pad would make already incredible brakes even moreso. They do dust but I do not remember them being as dusty as the OEM's after break in. Didnt someone make a white dust pad ? Repko or something like that?

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    Re: Brakes

    Ran them on the V?

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    Re: Brakes

    Sorry, not the V but my 96 ImpalaSS. They made an incredible difference. I would think they would be just as effective on the V.

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    Re: Brakes

    If you do not like brake dust, go to Pep boys and get their lifetime pads. They will eat through your damn rotors they are so hard. Now you know how they make them life time pads and no life time rotors. Rotor dust doesn't stick to wheels.

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