Sorry, Been vacating, and shooting Sporting Clays. The thread was only 3 pages last time I been on the sight. Glad to see it sparked so much interest.
[quote=FIVEOH!!!;1454123]I can see some of you being like this... and me being this guy...
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Originally Posted by atdeneve  Um, okay. Why don't you be so kind as to...
...So, is that fair and just enforcement of the law or is it a gross misuse of the law to generate revenue? Raise your hand, if you think it's the latter. Let me see some hands, please (unless you wanna get bitch slapped by a baaaaad mamba jamba).
So, regardless of semantics, it's bullshit.
But, again, please do educate me as to what makes this operation exclude itself from what would normally be termed a speed trap.  |
That's exactly what this whole Deal was Bullshit.
Thanks for being on the side who actually has a life and doesn't feel it's ok to be stopped for stupid crap just so you can be nice to a cop for doing his job.
Close your eyes Five-OH, I'm not talking to you, You're cool w/me.
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Originally Posted by LUVMY04V exactly I think every day about how screwed up the system is and there is no way to get around it. I seriously wish commen sence of an intellegent group would be the law. And every case was dealt with by a "case by case" judgement But this is a whole diffrent thread and will get wordy and boring 
Make the cops have video evidence of everything and it would solve alot of problems. We have the technology we just dont use it for good  |
Your on the Gotta life side too!
Can I request a copy of the traffic stop video? He was probably parked too far away to record any sound unless they carry microphones too.
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Originally Posted by LUVMY04V Lets all start a Lobbiest Group called P.A.R.S.L.E
People Against Revenue Seeking Law Enforcment |
Being a lobbiest is where all the money is. Paying of politicians, it's the American way!
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Originally Posted by CaddiLackin lets be fair, not all cops are dicks, there are many out there just trying to do their jobs. Unfortunately there are many, many power hungry cops that like to mess with people just because they have a badge and can. Please dont judge all of them |
I agree and let's not forget about the crooked (dirty money) cops and the ones who racially profile, But yes we shouldn't sterotype cops, there are good ones, this one in question came to the car already writing the ticket. He Leaned forward with the ticket book in hand he rested it on my window seal while we were talking. He was already in Butt Hole mode so I responded in like manner.
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Originally Posted by FIVEOH!!! hey hey hey.. we do use it. At least here where I work at. Our video and audio systm acitvates 45 seconds before we even hit our lights.. meaning that it's already recording "our" speed behind you 45 sec prior to us pulling you over. and it records everything you and I say during our beloved traffic stop. You see... we ar doing our very best to satisfy all your needs. |
Sounds like you're part of a stand up organization! Congrats to you
Some folks think it's all about ticketing the public, when it should be more about correction.
Part of my job duties is to ensure that the people are working, operating equipment in a safe manner. I have at my disposal a three stike safety policy and just like the cops, a little yellow book where I write down who did what and on what date.
1st of all I'd like to state that though it is needed, I hate this aspect of my job. If I wanted to be in law enforcement, I would've chosen that path. But I followed the path less taken and became an engineer.
That said, If I was like the officer in question, and folks like Vmoving, ctsv154, type911, I would have half of the plant population laid off on any given day. No Seat belt on while driving fork lift, No Orange Crush Vest while on fork lift, Walking through Orange Crush area w/o Orange Crush Vest, No Kevlar Sleeves, Kevlar sleeves not covering entire arm, not having thumbs through the thumb holes of Kevlar sleeves,
RF policy - can't be on the phone or using walkie-talkie while working, driving forklift, working on the line (doing anything besides standing still), not having safety glasses on, Seat belt not on correctly, Safe Hauling violations, siren and flashing lights not on while rail switch is being performed, rail car doors not fully opened and latched, etc. These are just a few of the LAWs that I'm responsible for Enforcing. If I take every violator to labor relations that I witness, Labor Relations would need to hire 40 additional people. If I stop, be courteous, explain what they did wrong and provide steps for correction, I have a better chance of getting the results of a safer work environment, without loosing people and being challenged with having to retrain a new employee.
Do I mind if the person, who I stopped, goes and warns his fellow team members???? Hell no! because now he's got the word out that I'm out and about doing my safety checks and that everyone needs to be on the up & up.
This is a win-win situation. The folks are performing at their safest and I can move onto another aspect of my job, ie. payroll, end of shift report, inventory checks, updating visuals, pissing on fires, etc.
Safety Checks my a$$ those cops were out there getting money. Bottom Line.
A safety check is those radar signs that lets the driver know they're speed and flashes when they're over the posted speed limit.
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Originally Posted by atdeneve I wholly agree. Would not argue the fact that it's a waste of time to fight with a cop.See, that's the thing. Like he said, if he did something egregiously wrong, such as speeding, he would not even think about copping an attitude. He would have to be an ass of an ass to do that. It's the fact that he was pulled over for something as seemingly harmless as flashing his lights. Yeah, he should have kept himself in check, but c'est la vie. This is not a situation where he was actin an ass and then demanding a reason for being pulled over. So let's not paint a different picture is all.
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Originally Posted by ctsv154 300ft of oncoming traffic. My dad pulls over ever car he sees with fog lights on unless its actually foggy. Granted, not every driver is a "criminal" but he has made several felony stops including robbery, burglary, dui, and MURDER all just from people being ignorant to the laws.
I'm so sick of hearing everybody's whinny ass bitching. The truth is you probably deserve more than what you got. |
So bottom line as I said, It's All About The MONEY. What usually happens after a Felony Stop??? Public recognition, your award winning stop publicized everywhere, I took defensive driving in OKC and they was boasting on how much drug money in Millions that they've siezed that year alone and how that money was funding their programs and the many unmarked cars they have. I admit they got some good ones, especially in Norman.
Daddy's boy, how many times has dad bailed you out of a ticket? How many times have you been stopped and mentioned your daddy's name and they let you go?
BTW What part of OK are you in. Used to stay in Moore
In Closing, like you, I'm tired of all you whiney a$$ silver spoon in the mouth brats, who at age 20 daddy bought them a CTS-V, because he doesn't have to worry about getting a ticket because he's got daddy to protect him.
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Originally Posted by type911 [color="Red"]I was not trying to piss you off. |
How is sales coming??? You're one hell of a sales man, I bet you can sell water to a well
So every time you get stopped you just go into sales man mode huh?? "Hey Mr. Officer, I got a one of kind jelly filled donut for you, please don't ticket me!" Then after he bites that pitch, you can't let him get away without a multiple sale, so you ask, "Would you like to purchase a high quality CAGS eliminator!"
Everyone is not in Sales type911, we didn't just show up out of no where with new Headers, and Superchargers for sale.
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Originally Posted by Superjim THAT sounds like one of the DUMBEST laws I have ever heard of. Just another way to generate revenue. I drive thru OK every once in a while.
That sounds like a typical,
"I can throw my weight around because I am a cop," CRAP.
Just another cop being an hineyhole and harrassing people to generate revenue.
Texas Jim |
Thank You
They do this at will. Power Trips thats all.
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Originally Posted by bpitas I can vouche for that. I used to do some pro services work for Hughes Christensen in the Woodlands, and Shenandoah is the ONLY place I've ever seen a state trooper in the left breakdown lane, parked against a jersey barrier, right over the crest of a hill waiting to bag people. If you were driving with your arm out the driver's side window, you would have smacked the cops mirror! |
How ironic, same thing happened to me after I left Houston following my class reunion. However I was in the far right lane but he was exactly where you said. I had talked myself out of that one too, but I couldn't resist the urge to appologize when he told me he just graduated (yes he was a young cat on power trip too) from a rival high school.
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Originally Posted by bpitas Oh boy, new thread that I feel passionately about. |
Thanks for having passion and the courage to stand when things are wrong.
Alot of folks have forgotten "For the people, by the people." Somehow we've grown accustom to taking whatever the gov't gives us, and we just bend over and take it. Gas prices, never ending war, skyrocketting health care, companies outsourcing all the jobs overseas thanks to trade aggreements that aren't working both ways, the scare tactics that the media uses daily on us (Today we're at an Orange security level), should I bring the Glock or the beneli?, and lastly, "You can't warn your fellow citizen that I have half my force 2 miles up the road waiting to give them a hefty ticket for anything they see fit. The end of the month is coming and we haven't met our quota so it's everybody on the street until we do."
Thanks for taking a stand.
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Originally Posted by bpitas Imagine how nice it would be to drive on the highway if speed limits were raised to 85mph, and instead of pulling over speeders the cops concentrated on picking off all the Volvo wagons in the high speed lane who never pull to the right after passing and have huge knots of traffic stuck behind them. I'll bet you a dollar that if they did that, you'd have LESS accidents because alot of the stupid driving I see during commute time is caused by people trying to pass on the right after they can't take being stuck behind idiots in the left lane anymore. I can't imagine you wouldn't make more money by pulling over people for "driving in the passing lane". Hell, if they want to increase the fine like they do with speeding tickets, they could charge $10 for each of the people stuck behind the first person. That and failure to use a directional would get you millions here in Massachusetts... |
Believe it or not, depending on what shift I'm on, when i'm driving in the early morning hours when most of the slow driving folks aren't on the road, I'm generally in Cruise Control at 70mph just relaxing and saving gas. I actually make great time on my 31 mile trip. In contrast, when I'm driving with the rest of the general public who prefers to talk on the phone, eat lunch, apply make up, play with their kids while doing an horrible job attempting to operate their car, that's when I get pissed off and have to use the additional horsepower to get around said folks. This is where most of the safety problems lie. Not with the speeder who is focused on driving and driving alone.
It's the person who's on the phone who slams on the brakes for no apparent reason, in the fast lane, just because he/she is trying to get their point across to someone on the other end of the pone, or the person who's trying to light a cigarette and while they're tilting their head to the car is drifting into another lane.
I find that as long as my space cushin is not being violated, I'm perfectly fine with driving 65-70mph. But for the frequent times when I have folks boxing me in, and breaking my cruise speeds for no apparent reason at all. I have to "make it do what it do baby"
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Originally Posted by trukk LOL, bro, I was just trying to save you from a 3 day vacation. Post it back up if you want to take your lumps. I think you said what a lot of us were feeling though.
The PBA stuff was funny  . Repost it, just remove the personal attack stuff.
-Chris |
Yeah, PM what you said! Seems like you would've been labeled to have had a bad attitude
) The radio is only useful when you are in visual range of the cop. Once you're out of sight, it doesn't help them much and actually hurts them if you have a scanner in the car. (which is illegal in pretty much every state, but if you're going to get caught, might as well go out in style!)
