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2004-2007 Cadillac CTS-V General Discussion Discussion, Thoughts and Impressions in Cadillac CTS-V Series Forum - 2004 - 2007; Driving: 1. First impression was that this was not going to be fast enough, but needed to break her in ...
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    Thoughts and Impressions

    1. First impression was that this was not going to be fast enough, but needed to break her in slowly without indulging.
    2. After two days since 500 mile period, V definitely crosses some ground fast, but sensation in the long straight roads of open flat corn country of Ohio is not particularly "hair raising".
    3. This all changes when there is anything else to pass, buildings to drive around, turns to make, etc. Now this is FUN!
    4. Since I've been driving old technology for too long, I'm no where near the driving limit of this baby. I'm also no where near the smoothness I like to have with a car.
    5. Smoothly managing the torque will take a lot of relearning of my heal/toe/rev matching feet maneuvers.
    6. The same is true for hard braking for a corner. I have one more gear to get down through with (5sp only cars until now), and the braking gets done in much less time, plus the entry exit speeds are much higher. Suffice it to say I feel real clumsy when I try to drive this thing hard, but AAAH what a nice problem to have!
    7. I'm extremely impressed with how precise the handling is on this, and that's al I'll say right now until I learn to drive it to its capability.
    8. I'm also very much impressed with how good these Goodyear runflats are. This is the first Goodyear I've had that is any "good"! I know its hard to go back to street rubber after life with racing compound rubber, but I am pleasantly surprised here; especially given the modest size.
    9. Tight turning radius was also a very pleasant surprise. I haven't done a statistical comparision, but I bet this baby would do real well in the tight garage spaces of Germany. Since I go there a lot, I know how sweet the German cars are in this regard.
    10. Major Bravo in this whole "driving" department.

    1. Not being a big fan of the CTS, mostly because it looked top heavy appearance-wise with too much metal above the wheels (and thus making the tires look too small), I was a little hesitant at first to spring for one of these; even though the V package makes those elements work acceptably.
    2. But this car has a very unique "presence" when you are walking around it and standing next to it. It's character goes with the functional performance package offered and really harmonizes this car wholistically. At least that is my personal opinion now. And yes, cognizance of "what lies beneath" does have a tendency to positively effect our attitudes of appearance!
    3. The front end of this car is one great face! This is the nicest Caddy execution ever. All the lines and form breaks have been thoughtfully balanced to work together. This approach has classic elements of style that are rapidly disappearing from the aesthetic world at large, which is more about being unique than it is about timeless beauty. Yes, Mercedes and Ferrari have traditional and excellent notions of admirable style in most of their cars, but they don't fit my budget too well.
    4. Wheels are fine, sizing pretty good, wheel wells clean. I prefer the optional wheels coming in the future, and I do prefer a little tighter wheel, fender relationship (that doesn't interfere either mind you). Still some room for improvement, but pretty good overall.
    5. I was very happy to see the interior offered in this car from day one. Finally a thoughtful, progressively conservative combination of form and color (and craft) without having to rely on x levels of glossed over exotic wood bits with cheesy graphics. The lines really evoke the exterior movements but yet are less intimidating as they come in front of the car (aka passengers "face").
    6. Although I don't profess to be the luxury car expert by any means of the imagination, I happen to like the material combination of the interior a lot (I do go to Germany a lot and I have studied and used most of those fine breeds over there). I don't think a lot of people are seeing how much of this interior is a soft, pliable material (comment in Auto week for example - this is not your old Z28). The texturing refinement on these parts while allowing the material to be as soft as it is, impresses this hombre big time. Very consistent lines with fine radii and no blemishes at all. Again, I like it, and I try to make up my own mind and not have it made of for me when it comes to things like this. Even the fine texturing (&paint?) on the few hard plastic pieces is appropriate and thoughtful to me as a consumer looking for quality, craft, thoughtfulness, and value combined.
    7. I'm no leather buff, but the leather in the V ranks higher to my benchmark than the rougher counterparts I've seen in other makes. No, it doesn't compare to subtle fine furniture, but its the best I've ever had in an automobile. I better shut up here as I'm getting out of my league of wisdom.

    Improvement Ideas:
    1. I like the interior trunk lid handles that the German marks incorporate so that you can close the lid without getting your hands dirty (or salty). This V will probably be prone to some minor scratching; especially given the slightly higher truck force this lid has.
    2. The top part of my left shoe hits the underside of the park brake whenever I take my foot off the clutch. Slight annoyance.
    3. I do miss the steer wheel volume adjust simply because my Grand Cherokee has it and I'm spoiled.
    4. I prefer the interior lighting that my SHO makes over this.
    5. I also like the turning beam I get with the turn signals on my SHO.
    6. I do hit switches on the temperature control area when shifting, but I have adjusted the way I hold the stick to compensate (now hold like a pencil).
    7. Dealer customer service/product knowledge has a ways to go, but I don't want to hammer that right now. Here's one idea though: Create a business process that makes your salesmen read this forum regularly as one of their training exercises. Here's another idea: Hire Miscreant into the corporate environment to consult your way through this for the sake of your younger (growth) customers. What a good example he is.

    1. Too many too list, Nav, XM sound/offering, curb tilting mirrors, silver stitching. Did I mention power and handling? Ha!

    Man I have to stop, even thought I could drone on for a lot longer. Can't believe I just invested this much time doing this. Moral of the story: Finally an excellent product for a particular and opinionated individual who has been waiting for some time for this. For any of those Cadillac developers who may be reading this (which I hope is the case as I have no confidence that my comments would ever make it to anyone who mattered through normal processes and channels). Good product can turn around a stodgy brand and your new products are doing this in short order. Please keep it up!

    Always soon to V!

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    Re: Thoughts and Impressions

    Quote Originally Posted by soon to V
    3. I do miss the steer wheel volume adjust simply because my Grand Cherokee has it and I'm spoiled.
    Exactly. It will kill you even more to know that the base CTS has steering wheel audio controls....

    Perhaps someone creative will find a way to rewire the buttons on the V wheel....

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    Re: Thoughts and Impressions

    Quote Originally Posted by soon to V
    Here's another idea: Hire Miscreant into the corporate environment to consult your way through this for the sake of your younger (growth) customers. What a good example he is.
    Man, am I blushing!....

    But seriously, the main problem is with dealership turn-around: The car market is simply not a place where many people make alot of money, or dealerships don't pay their salespeople very well to keep them around. When salespeople don't feel like the dealership really wants to retain them, or when sales people simply don't get to really learn the product, it makes it difficult on customers.
    2004 Cadillac CTS (**SOLD** ):
    2004 Pontiac GTO:

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