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06-22-07, 06:45 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 2004 Platinum CTS-V  | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Aurora, IL | | | Oil Capacity on CTS-V
What is the oil capacity on a 2004 CTS-V?
I read in the FAQ that it takes 5-6 Qts... I want to know what the "official" number is...
If anyone has their oil changed at the dealer, what I'm really after here is, how many QT's do they charge for?
The original dealer I went to charged for 5 and the oil change was $56.68, which I can stomach for Mobil 1 and all...
Today, new dealer, 8 QT's and $79.89 
Time to go back and have a "discussion" with them. I would like a little "ammo" from my friends on the forum as to what they have experienced in Dealer Oil Changes...  Please... No Thread bashing for having the dealer change the oil... I am only doing this for documentation/history/records for warranty purposes.. |
06-22-07, 06:55 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 05' CTS-V | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL Age: 24 | | | Re: Oil Capacity on CTS-V
6 quarts...it's an ls6...5.3 and 4.8's are the same just about all the LSx motors take 6 quarts.....you might need 6.1-6.2 if your really finnicky about being at dead full. |
06-22-07, 07:02 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 2005 CTS-V | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Spring, Texas | | | Re: Oil Capacity on CTS-V
The service manual indicates 6 quarts w/o filter and 6.5 quarts w/filter. My dealer, which I also use for absolute documentation purposes, charges 8 quarts, but shows a gross unit price of $8.37 reduced to a "net" of $6.00. This results a $48.00 charge for the oil itself. In the overall scheme of things, I do not consider this all that bad. I suspect, but do not know, that many dealers buy their popular oils in bulk containers and do not know with absolute precision how many quarts their dispensing. |
06-22-07, 07:27 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 2004 Platinum CTS-V | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Aurora, IL | | | Re: Oil Capacity on CTS-V
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Originally Posted by darkman  This results a $48.00 charge for the oil itself. | What is your "out the door" price on a single oil change service? (filter, oil, labor, tax, disposal, etc...) |
06-22-07, 07:30 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 2004 Platinum CTS-V | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Aurora, IL | | | Re: Oil Capacity on CTS-V
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Originally Posted by nxlr8 What is the oil capacity on a 2004 CTS-V?
I read in the FAQ that it takes 5-6 Qts... I want to know what the "official" number is...
If anyone has their oil changed at the dealer, what I'm really after here is, how many QT's do they charge for?
The original dealer I went to charged for 5 and the oil change was $56.68, which I can stomach for Mobil 1 and all...
Today, new dealer, 8 QT's and $85.56
Time to go back and have a "discussion" with them. I would like a little "ammo" from my friends on the forum as to what they have experienced in Dealer Oil Changes... Please... No Thread bashing for having the dealer change the oil... I am only doing this for documentation/history/records for warranty purposes.. | edit: listed the wrong OTD price of oil change at second dealer |
06-22-07, 07:32 PM
|  | Moon Parasite Cadillac(s): 2006 STS-V BlackonBlack / 2005 CTS-V Redline (traded in) | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: D/FW Tejas | | | Re: Oil Capacity on CTS-V
I had them charge me for 8 quarts once. Come to find out the tech put almost 8 quarts of oil in my car thinking it was some different 8 cyl Cadillac engine. Needless to say the dealership had the car back the next day and performed a 2nd oil change. This time they used and charged for 6 quarts as they had the 4 previous ones. I watch each one like a hawk now. |
06-22-07, 07:56 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): Twin-Turbo Bimmer/C6Z06 Hunting... | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: MN>ND>MN>SD>IL>MN>IL Age: 41 | | | Re: Oil Capacity on CTS-V
6.5 quarts. RTOM. |
06-22-07, 08:05 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 2004 Platinum CTS-V | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Las Vegas Age: 26 | | | Re: Oil Capacity on CTS-V
I don't get it. If you're going to be so anal about an oil change, DO IT YOURSELF. Besides being cheaper and EASY, you know exactly how much and what it is that is going into your engine. |
06-22-07, 08:23 PM
| | Moon Parasite Cadillac(s): 2006 STS-V BlackonBlack / 2005 CTS-V Redline (traded in) | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: D/FW Tejas | | | Re: Oil Capacity on CTS-V
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Originally Posted by LV_V I don't get it. If you're going to be so anal about an oil change, DO IT YOURSELF. Besides being cheaper and EASY, you know exactly how much and what it is that is going into your engine. | So I take it you prepare all of your own meals and never eat out ? |
06-22-07, 09:00 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 2005 CTS-V | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Spring, Texas | | | Re: Oil Capacity on CTS-V
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Originally Posted by nxlr8 What is your "out the door" price on a single oil change service? (filter, oil, labor, tax, disposal, etc...) | In addition to the $48.00 already described, my dealer charges $59.95 as a package price that includes: (a) the oil filter; (b) tire rotation; (c) labor on the oil change and inspection of all fulid levels and drive belts, etc. presumably as required the Maintenance I schedule. Finally, there is a $4.50 environmental disposal charge and sales tax. The total is $120.00. |
06-22-07, 09:08 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 2004 Platinum CTS-V | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Aurora, IL | | | Re: Oil Capacity on CTS-V
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Originally Posted by LV_V I don't get it. If you're going to be so anal about an oil change, DO IT YOURSELF. Besides being cheaper and EASY, you know exactly how much and what it is that is going into your engine. | I think you missed the point 
It has NOTHING to do with being anal about my oil changes
1) I get it done at the dealership so if anything goes wrong with the motor, they have all the oil changes documented for warranty purposes. They can't say "Well, you threw a rod 'cuz you never changed the oil" or some B.S. like that... (Once the warranty is up, I do 'em myself  )
2) It has to do with not being anally raped on what I'm charged... if you went to the gas station and bought 15 gallons of gas, would you be OK with paying for 20 gallons? If so, kudo's to you...
FYI, I do change the oil on my other 2 cars and my bike... so... Thank's for your input  |
06-22-07, 09:23 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 2005 CTS-V | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Spring, Texas | | | Re: Oil Capacity on CTS-V
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Originally Posted by nxlr8 I think you missed the point
It has NOTHING to do with being anal about my oil changes
1) I get it done at the dealership so if anything goes wrong with the motor, they have all the oil changes documented for warranty purposes. They can't say "Well, you threw a rod 'cuz you never changed the oil" or some B.S. like that... (Once the warranty is up, I do 'em myself )
2) It has to do with not being anally raped on what I'm charged... if you went to the gas station and bought 15 gallons of gas, would you be OK with paying for 20 gallons? If so, kudo's to you...
FYI, I do change the oil on my other 2 cars and my bike... so... Thank's for your input | I agree. My cars (and bikes) belong to the Dealer until the warranties run out. Doing it yourself is only cheaper if nothing ever goes wrong. |
06-22-07, 09:28 PM
|  | Mods on hold till diff gets fixed. Cadillac(s): 2005 CTS-V | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: South Lyon, MI Age: 60 | | | Re: Oil Capacity on CTS-V
6-1/2 qts? Man, I didn't know that.  I've been putting in 6 qts even each time, and it shows right in the middle of the cross-hatched area on the dipstick. When I change it at between 3.5-4k miles, it's still at that same level. I suppose I'm okay, though, since the extra half qt would be most beneficial for cooling if I was tracking or something ... which I'm not.
6.5 qts is gonna screw up the six-quart-case routine I do at Costco. 
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06-22-07, 10:43 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 2005 CTS-V | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Spring, Texas | | | Re: Oil Capacity on CTS-V
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Originally Posted by rand49er 6-1/2 qts? Man, I didn't know that. I've been putting in 6 qts even each time, and it shows right in the middle of the cross-hatched area on the dipstick. When I change it at between 3.5-4k miles, it's still at that same level. I suppose I'm okay, though, since the extra half qt would be most beneficial for cooling if I was tracking or something ... which I'm not.
6.5 qts is gonna screw up the six-quart-case routine I do at Costco. | Maybe your next mod should be Milodon 7 quart (7 1/2 w/filter) road racing oil pan. Then you can buy gallons instead of quarts. |
06-23-07, 12:08 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): Sedan de Ville, CTS | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Antonio, Tx | | | Re: Oil Capacity on CTS-V
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Originally Posted by darkman In addition to the $48.00 already described, my dealer charges $59.95 as a package price that includes: (a) the oil filter; (b) tire rotation; (c) labor on the oil change and inspection of all fulid levels and drive belts, etc. presumably as required the Maintenance I schedule. Finally, there is a $4.50 environmental disposal charge and sales tax. The total is $120.00. | Drop your car off at my house, and I will charge you $119.00 | | Cadillac Discussion Tools | | | 
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