Navigation question - Download addresses

[CTSV_Rob]

I am really sorry if some of you find this a bad thread but it's been bugging me and I cannot figure out how to do it. I would ask the dealer where I bought the V but they didn't even know about the TSB for the wheel hop problem.

I was reading through the manual and it says you can download the address info for the navigation using a Palm thourgh the IR port. I tried to figure out what format it was looking for but I could not find it.
- Has someone done this with a Palm?
- If so how did it work?

What I would like to do is use my Pocket PC instead of a palm (I don't have a palm).
- Has anyone tried to use a pocket PC to download an address?
- if so did they have any luck doing it?

I find it a bit painful to put in the address into the navigation screens so if I could use the Pocket PC to downlaod the address it would be much easier to input any address into the navigation.

Cadillac used to be the leader when it came to all of the options but this navigation unit is not one of the best I have ever used. I think one of the things that bugs me is when it tells you to make a U turn. Instead it tells you to make a left turn then in another tenth mile make another left turn.

Any help would be appreciated on this one.

[atdeneve]

Originally Posted by CTSV_Rob

I think one of the things that bugs me is when it tells you to make a U turn. Instead it tells you to make a left turn then in another tenth mile make another left turn.

Yeah, that's stooPed. Whenever that happens, I just tell her to go fcuk herself and then pull a U-ey. After a moment, I apologize.

I think some people have tried using a Pocket PC and, if I recall correctly, they were not able to sync it with the NAV. It has to be a Palm (I think that's the only OS that will sync properly with the NAV).

[JimmyH]

I tried it with a smartphone. My phone did find the NAV through IR, and it does connect, but the smartphone reports the transfer as "failed" and the NAV reports as "no data received". Probably has to do with the address format I bet. Since the car and the phone do see each other, I am sure someone with the knowledge could hack the smartphone or pocket pc so it would work.

[ctsvett]

I tried them all when I first got the car PocketPC, Palm, etc. Palm is the only one that I got to work...

Reed

[tedcmiller]

Those who have indicated that Palm devices are the only ones that work are probably correct. I have sucessfully transferred entries from two different Palm devices through the IR port. Unfortunately I don't have any non-Plam devices with IR ports to see if they work. I suspect that they won't.

[CTSV_Rob]

Originally Posted by jimmyhauser

I tried it with a smartphone. My phone did find the NAV through IR, and it does connect, but the smartphone reports the transfer as "failed" and the NAV reports as "no data received". Probably has to do with the address format I bet. Since the car and the phone do see each other, I am sure someone with the knowledge could hack the smartphone or pocket pc so it would work.

Wohooo! I got it to work.

When I tried it the thing failed but the interesting part is the Pocket PC said the Receiving unit was "Xanavi informatics" I searched for this on the web and it turns out it's a Japanese company. This might explain the dumb U turn instruction.

Must write address in the "contacts" in the Pocket PC
You don't need to enter all of the information, only needs
- Name of contact (Can be one character)
- Street address - required
- City, State, Zip Code, Country, - Optional

Here's were it gets a little screwy
From the Navigation press the "Receive" button

From the Pocket PC, open the contact you want to send then click on "beam contact".

Hold the Pocket PC about 2 inches from the IR port maximum and wait until it fails.
You should see
"Xanavi informatics Failed"

Next click on "Receive" again and hold the pockect PC close to the IR port again You will now see,
"Xanavi informatics Failed"
"Xanavi informatics Tap to send"

Tap "tap to send" and it should you should see
"Xanavi informatics Failed"
"Xanavi informatics Sending 1/1"

Contact (address) is now downloaded. Follow the screen prompts to map the address.

I have tried this at least 10 times and it does work. Funny part is it always fails the first time and when you "tap to send" it works properly.

Also, You must have the address configured exact. One problem I encountered was I had a period at the end of ave "ave." and it did not recognize the address. this is a bit dumb, should ignore this character.

Bottom line is it works! This sure is much easier then entering the address using the knob.

[nikon]

^^eh, I think it'll take longer to do what you described...none the less, good find...for me almost every address I input I get a couple characters entered and it finishes it for me...takes 20-30sec tops.

[CTSV_Rob]

I'm sorry you think this is a waste of time Nikon I didn't mean to bring this on to you. I apologize if the Japanese comment offended you.

Since this can be done it means that it can probably be fixed to were it will take no time at all to beam the contact.

It actually takes about 10 seconds to do and the advantage is I have all of my contacts in Outlook (including addresses). If I do this right I will have these addresses stored and if I want o go there again all I need to do is point, beam twice, and it's done. For example, when I need to go to a customers site, all I need to do is pull up the contact and beam it. Seems handy to me.

I have found that you cannot store to many points of interest but with the way I'm doing it the only limit I have is available memory.

If you are creative then it will open up some possibilities that aren't built into the GM Navigation (Which should be). My $500 Magellan is more user friendly, more powerful, is a touch screen, and contains a better map then the GM version.

Nikon is right, it isn't that difficult to enter the address however is it a bit clunky. I will still use the standard way to input an address however beaming the contact is an "option " I will use.

I hope someone finds this useful.

[JimmyH]

I will have to try it again with my smartphone. I did try it twice like you did and it did not work for me. Maybe windows smartphone is different than windows pocket pc. Which version do you have? I have 2003.

By the way, when it was searching, mine said Xanavi informatics too, but click to send, since I cant tap. And it said sending 1/1 the second time just like you, but it still failed. I will check to make sure there is no punctuation in my addresses.

[CTSV_Rob]

Originally Posted by jimmyhauser

I will have to try it again with my smartphone. I did try it twice like you did and it did not work for me. Maybe windows smartphone is different than windows pocket pc. Which version do you have? I have 2003.

By the way, when it was searching, mine said Xanavi informatics too, but click to send, since I cant tap. And it said sending 1/1 the second time just like you, but it still failed. I will check to make sure there is no punctuation in my addresses.

Hi Jimmy,
I have a Dell Axim X30 with Pocket PC 2003.

I'm not sure how far back you held the phone however I tried holding it further then 2 inches and it failed a second time. Not sure that this is your problem but I thought I should mention it.

It will download even if the punctuation is wrong but when you try to "search" for the address it fails then.

How does the contact data base work in the smart phones? can you ssync with outlook to download contacts, phone numbers, and addresses?

[JimmyH]

Originally Posted by CTSV_Rob

Hi Jimmy,
I have a Dell Axim X30 with Pocket PC 2003.

I'm not sure how far back you held the phone however I tried holding it further then 2 inches and it failed a second time. Not sure that this is your problem but I thought I should mention it.

It will download even if the punctuation is wrong but when you try to "search" for the address it fails then.

How does the contact data base work in the smart phones? can you ssync with outlook to download contacts, phone numbers, and addresses?

I tried it from almost touching to about 12" away (I was waiting somewhere in my car and had an hour to kill-the only reason I even tried this)

I have used pocket pc pda, pocket pc phone, and smartphone. They are all the same functionally. Sync, contacts, os, they are the same. The only difference is the interface. Pocket pc has the touch screen, smartphone doesnt. Although pocket pcs have faster processors and higher screen res typically. Anyway, the contacts program is the same on this smartphone as the pocket pc phone I used to have. I will play around with it more sometime.

[nikon]

Originally Posted by CTSV_Rob

I'm sorry you think this is a waste of time Nikon I didn't mean to bring this on to you. I apologize if the Japanese comment offended you.

Since this can be done it means that it can probably be fixed to were it will take no time at all to beam the contact.

It actually takes about 10 seconds to do and the advantage is I have all of my contacts in Outlook (including addresses). If I do this right I will have these addresses stored and if I want o go there again all I need to do is point, beam twice, and it's done. For example, when I need to go to a customers site, all I need to do is pull up the contact and beam it. Seems handy to me.

I have found that you cannot store to many points of interest but with the way I'm doing it the only limit I have is available memory.

If you are creative then it will open up some possibilities that aren't built into the GM Navigation (Which should be). My $500 Magellan is more user friendly, more powerful, is a touch screen, and contains a better map then the GM version.

Nikon is right, it isn't that difficult to enter the address however is it a bit clunky. I will still use the standard way to input an address however beaming the contact is an "option " I will use.

I hope someone finds this useful.

See I dont store any contacts in my pda, so why I thought it'd take longer is because I'd have to create a new contact put in the address then beam it....Only because what I do for a living I go to a new house everytime never the same one twice...didn't mean to offend you, sorry if I did...was just thinking from my perspective

btw I've got a magellan roadmate as well I love that thing, I just did an update to it and now it even speaks the road name blows the factory nav out of the water.....I saw on trucks this weekend they offer a built in sorta thing for the new F-150 trucks...makes it look like built in nav but uses the magellan, I wish they'd come out with that for some other vehicles.