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MSO: yes. are you lowered?
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Question..If I would get some CCW wheels....how do i get the TPS monitors on them?? Im pretty ignorant on those things....all black magic to me..
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mine got on fine, just let them know you have them i think when ordering so they can drill the hole differently or something.
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MSO: yes. are you lowered?
Not lowered. I had 19" 445r HREs on my 350Z with 245/35/19 and 275/35/19 and they were perfect.

I like the 5 spoke pattern of the SP550s, but want to make sure that the above-mentioned tires (245/40 and 275/35) fit the fenders fine (they won't throw the speedometer off materially either).


Mike (doesn't want to spend the money and end up with rubbing)

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I have canceled my order for now. lowered with eibach springs and spacer mod for rear, what can i put on with out rubbing or modding rear fender(hard bump or 500pound chick in back seat)?

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If you are using the stock shocks, they will load level, so you should not have a problem with the beefy chick. I would not go over 9.5 in the rear. My 10 rubbed the trailing arm with the eibach's.
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Let me guess,

CCW won't tell you what your offsets are?
He claims he has it all worked out?
You have nothing to worry about?
HRE won't tell you offsets, either. The top manufacturers stand by their products, but don't provide proprietary measurements to the public. If there is something wrong with the fit, HRE will make it right.

Nothing unusual about this.

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Old 03-07-08, 07:49 PM
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If you are using the stock shocks, they will load level, so you should not have a problem with the beefy chick. I would not go over 9.5 in the rear. My 10 rubbed the trailing arm with the eibach's.
What offsets did you have on your 10s that allowed them to rub the trailing arm? Will a 275/35/19 with proper offset not rub there or the fender?

Mike (can't believe a 10 won't fit)
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Old 03-07-08, 10:51 PM
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HRE won't tell you offsets, either. The top manufacturers stand by their products, but don't provide proprietary measurements to the public. If there is something wrong with the fit, HRE will make it right.

Nothing unusual about this.

Mike (loved his HREs)
I always get a laugh out of how someone thinks offsets, for a production-car wheel-application, qualify as proprietary information.
You are not asking for a CAD of the wheel, just ofset info, to provide a clearer understanding of where, your chosen tire size, will be positioned in your fenders.

Change tire width and you could require a different offset to fit properly.
Nothing wrong with wanting to know what you are going to get, before you send your deposit in.

I would not drop coin with a vendor who held back critical info from me.

When a vendor hides behind the proprietary info line (for info easily aquired) it makes me question how sure they are of themselves.
What are they really afraid of?

BTW - Once you are a prospective customer, you are no longer the public.
Don't let those you do business with disrespect you that way.

I was considering a set of CCW wheels, untill I got them on the phone.
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Re: CCW owners look plz!

lunarx,

It's a shame you didn't have a good experience with CCW. I don't know if you got to talk to John or not but I think there one of the best vendors I have ever done business with. They went above and beyond to take care of me when I bought my wheels and when I sent them back to be chromed. I know that you can't please everyone all the time but it's ashame you had such a bad experience.

I know you have a Mallet "V"....................I won't even go into the bad experience I had with talking to them on the phone when I tried to buy there wheels first. Talk about an arrogant ass on the phone. It wasn't Chuck though one of his people. Oh well...........can't please everyone.

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Re: CCW owners look plz!

A wheel manufacturer that says what the "proper offset" is for their wheels is setting themselves up for lawsuits. Customer A uses 245 series tires and everything is fine. Customer B puts 255 tires on and has a drop and rubbing, saying the "wheel guy told me this wheel works with my car".

The manufacturer of the car can say what their offset is, because it is supplying the "stock" setup.

If you want to know what the offset is for your setup (that you bought that was satisfactory), I'm sure the manufacturer will tell you. Just don't ask them pre-purchase what offset your wheels should be. HRE is not doing research for CCW, nor is True Forged doing research for either.

If you don't trust the vendor and don't communicate with them, don't deal with them. Just don't ask them to tell you what numbers to give to another wheel manufacturer.

Mike (don't deal with any supplier you don't trust...but don't expect any of them to be public with their numbers)
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Re: CCW owners look plz!

ssmith100,

I guess you got me.
I'm guilty of doing business with one of the less forthcomming vendors out there.
Their product is so bad-ass though.
However, believe me, it was far from turn-key and needed alot of finishing touches.

MSOsr,

Do you really believe what you are saying?
There is no justifyable reason that a manufacturer should not let you know what offset they intent to sell you.
It's silly to believe that another reputable manufacturer would build a wheel for a customer based solely on what they heard via a phone call from another manufacturer.
If they were legit they would verify it themselves before building.
In which case knowing another vendors info is simply something to compare against.
That does not eliminate the need for research.

I bet the largest reason manufacturers won't reveal offsets is because they don't really know what it will end up as, untill they begin the engineering phase and wheel components get selected.
With all the varying combinations of 3 piece wheels, the one you are ordering may not have been built before.
Even if it has, they may have to build it from different components this time.
At the time you send in your deposit, nobody really knows what the final product will really be.
In other words it could be off by 1-2mm and they don't want people calling them on that, since they feel it's irrelevent.
The convinient excuse is to play the proprietary information card.

That's my theory anyways.
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Re: CCW owners look plz!

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HRE won't tell you offsets, either. The top manufacturers stand by their products, but don't provide proprietary measurements to the public. If there is something wrong with the fit, HRE will make it right.

Nothing unusual about this.

Mike (loved his HREs)
Wheel offset is something that can be easily measured. Any one of the CCW or HRE or (insert brand name) wheel owners on this forum could measure it off the wheels they have with nothing more complicated than a straight edge, a tape measure, and about 15sec worth of math. With that in mind, how can HRE or anyone else think that's proprietary information?

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I always get a laugh out of how someone thinks offsets, for a production-car wheel-application, qualify as proprietary information.
You are not asking for a CAD of the wheel, just ofset info, to provide a clearer understanding of where, your chosen tire size, will be positioned in your fenders.
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MSOsr,

Do you really believe what you are saying?
There is no justifyable reason that a manufacturer should not let you know what offset they intent to sell you.
It's silly to believe that another reputable manufacturer would build a wheel for a customer based solely on what they heard via a phone call from another manufacturer.
If they were legit they would verify it themselves before building.
In which case knowing another vendors info is simply something to compare against.
That does not eliminate the need for research.
I couldn't agree more.
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I agree most.
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Re: CCW owners look plz!

And if HRE says that a +25 offset works on the rears and Joe Schmo orders a +25 offset from ABC wheel and they don't fit properly, Joe blames HRE. The top manufacturers make their wheels to fit particular cars.....not to have a particular offset and to let the customer hope he picks the right one.

Sure you can take an HRE wheel and figure the offset, but I sure wouldn't use that measurement to buy wheels from someone who hasn't made wheels for a CTS-V yet.

So for those that want the info, make the measurement yourself on wheels that fit well on the car. Otherwise, deal with the reputable manufacturers that make their wheels for the car.

Mike (is a lawyer and knows how the blame game works)
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