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    Re: 3rd Brake Light not working

    any update?

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    Re: 3rd Brake Light not working

    Sorry- the one I have is just the bezel (no brake light) .

    Give James over at Lindsay Cadillac a call and he'll get you a great deal on one.
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    Re: 3rd Brake Light not working

    "Is there any way I can get my dealer to pay for this?"

    ASK.

    Call them up, explain the situation and you never can tell.

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    Re: 3rd Brake Light not working

    If you cant get it covered look here on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2004-...spagenameZWDVW

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    Re: 3rd Brake Light not working

    Quote Originally Posted by Cadillac Tony View Post
    Sorry- the one I have is just the bezel (no brake light) .

    Give James over at Lindsay Cadillac a call and he'll get you a great deal on one.
    I thought it was all one part? Or is that just the only way I can buy it?

    OR do you mean its a bezel without a brake light (factory made), if so, can I just replace it with that and not have a brake light? That would be fine too, who wants to replace an optional brake light every 2 years for 700 dollars? not me.

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    Re: 3rd Brake Light not working

    The bezel and the third brake light are two seperate parts. You have to take the bezel off to change the light assembly. There isn't a bezel available that works with out the third brakle light...

    The part number for the light assembly is 15778802 and we sell it for $396.78 plus shipping to you. If you want to order one give Luke in our parts department a call at (703) 647-8670 or you can e-mail him at lbutler@lindsaycadillac.com

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    Re: 3rd Brake Light not working

    Quote Originally Posted by caddyVkid View Post
    Hello all,

    went to get my '05 cts-v safety inspected yesterday and they told me I didn't pass because my third brake light is out (the one on the top of the trunk)...

    thanks
    hey i dont see why they wouldnt pass it.....you have two functioning brake lights so that is all that the law requires. I would ask them wtf you have to have 3 to pass an inspection ??????

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    Re: 3rd Brake Light not working

    It might vary by state but in Virginia, it is required and it has to functional...

    Quote Originally Posted by Safety Inspection Administrative Code

    INSPECT FOR AND REJECT IF:

    Any 1986 or subsequent year model passenger vehicle or any 1994 or subsequent year model multipurpose vehicle is not equipped with a supplemental center high mount stop lamp of an approved type (DOT or SAE-U, U1 or U2) mounted at the vertical centerline of the vehicle which functions only in cooperation with the vehicle's stop lamps. Any other vehicle on which a supplemental center high mount stop lamp is mounted shall have the lamp mounted at the vertical center line of the vehicle. The lamps shall be of an approved type and shall function only in conjunction with the stop lamps. The high mount stop lamp must be steady burning and not wired to flash with turn signals or other wig-wag device.

    NOTE: Multipurpose passenger vehicles with an overall width of 80 or more inches or GVWR of 10,000 pounds or more are not required to be equipped with a center high mount stop light;

    No sticker or other foreign material shall be affixed to the vehicle in such a manner so as to obscure the center high mount stop lamp

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    Re: 3rd Brake Light not working

    Depends on the state. Some states, if the OEM 3rd lamp is not working, it's a no pass.

    The first couple of years, the lamp was only available as the the panel and lamp together. That has changed with the painted panels. The lamp is now available on its own.

    The lamp is neon and not LED. 2 real tiny glass neon tubes and a sealed high voltage amplifier. The problem is, the amplifier is sealed in a way no repairs can be made. The way the amplifier is sealed...there is sealer inside the amp. It's been encapsulated.

    Other problem. A glass tube can shatter. Dead.

    We bought a bunch (40+) panels with lamps back in late 2003 or 2004. They sat for years, and then we sold out all the lamps in the last 18 months.

    Still have a bunch of panels.

    These lamps are nearly impossible to find in working order. Couple of months ago had a core supplier drop in. He had 30+ CTS lamps. We tested all 30+ and only bought 2. Only 2 of the lamps out of 30 worked.

    It's one of those things. Find a good lamp, then start shopping for your next one.

    Watch out. Alot of eBay ones are sold 'untested' and 'as is.'


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    Re: 3rd Brake Light not working

    Here is a picture inside of a dead 3rd CTS brake light.

    Pic shows amplifier.


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    Re: 3rd Brake Light not working

    Mini neon glass tube and reflector.



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    Re: 3rd Brake Light not working

    Amplifier. Picture shows encapsulation material. Impossible to remove without damaging the board. Lots of surface mounted components etc.



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    Re: 3rd Brake Light not working

    Sounds like an LED retrofit is needed.

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    Re: 3rd Brake Light not working

    That has been our thought too. Install a LED board. Much simplier stuff.

    Problem is time. We stay pretty busy with the Escalades and others LED's.

    At least with the pictures. You should have a better understanding of what's going on with the CTS lamps. Broken tubes are maybe a 10-15% issue. Bad lamp is AMP 85%. There may be a tube leakage issue too. Dont know.

    Core guys do show up. Every now and then we get a couple. Test them for a couple hours. Only 0 issue lamps get shipped out.


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    Re: 3rd Brake Light not working

    Quote Originally Posted by Logandiagnostic View Post
    That has been our thought too. Install a LED board. Much simplier stuff.

    Problem is time. We stay pretty busy with the Escalades and others LED's.

    At least with the pictures. You should have a better understanding of what's going on with the CTS lamps. Broken tubes are maybe a 10-15% issue. Bad lamp is AMP 85%. There may be a tube leakage issue too. Dont know.

    Core guys do show up. Every now and then we get a couple. Test them for a couple hours. Only 0 issue lamps get shipped out.


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    what do you suggest I do?

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