[figgie]

In the end money talks to manufactures.

And really you guys (CTS) are not that bad. The prices are pretty high!

Try owning an 87-92 Supra. They literally cry over $300 for a part (Fuel injectors @ #375 for a set of 6)! Group buys are none existant because they always say they are intrested but when the time comes to pony up the cash.... crickets.

And I know about paying!

Hell my Standalone system is worth about double than what I paid for my 1987 Supra back in 1994 ($8000) along with custom 1 off parts that I HAD to get made for my particular build (ATI Super damper when there was none. I got them manufacturing them). Etc.