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popecorkyxxiv (October 12, 2008 at 5:40 am)
Did I say that Israel were the psychtic religious ones? I was trying to say subtly that Islamists are a pack of blood thirsty, neanderthalic, zealots; without actually having to say it but it seems you missed my nuances. I agree that Israel is not the problem, the problem is a large group of nomadic primatives that were given their own nations as payment for support following WWI, and their idiocy driven jyhad against anyone who's differnt from them.
jimiydoorshamelech (October 10, 2008 at 9:26 pm)
Palestinians are religous muslims like rest of middle east
Israel is a secular country
Israel is one of the least religous and most nationalistic countries
its a very basic fact that people keep getting WRONG over and over and over and over and over...
just because its a Jewish state doesnt make it religous, your telling me that America isnt a christian state? Even Barack is a christian! dont give me that
popecorkyxxiv (October 10, 2008 at 9:20 pm)
Ultimatly this is caused by conflicts between the religion of group and the religion of the other. Faith is dangerous, it causes people to believe they they alone are right about the most fundemental ideas and if anyone disagrees they must be 'corrected'. It took Christianity nearly 2000 years to adopt a stance of semi-secular freedom of faith, these primative cultures have not denounces fundementalism but instead they actively help it prosper, causing the horror and chaos you mentioned.
jimiydoorshamelech (October 10, 2008 at 4:18 pm)
5,000 Total Palestinains killed since 2000 , the bloodiest 8 years of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. caused by intifada (bloody war declared by Palestinians)[SELF-IMPOSED]
25,000 Arabs killed by Syria in one day (Hama Massacre) fighting terrorists
400,000 in 5 years in Darfur, countless left alive and gangraped (ahmadinejad supports Al-Bashir)
Rwanda- 1 million killed and countless left raped
Saddam- 100,000 Shiite killed in one repression
100,000 Kurds mustard gassed to death
jimiydoorshamelech (October 10, 2008 at 4:17 pm)
Herzl proposed a practical program for collecting funds from Jews around the world by a company to be owned by stockholders, which would work toward the practical realization of this goal. (This organization, when it was eventually formed, was called the Zionist Organization.) He saw the future state as a model social state, basing his ideas on the European model of the time, of a modern enlightened society. It would be neutral and peace-seeking, and of a secular nature.
popecorkyxxiv (October 10, 2008 at 2:19 pm)
Weird how thousands of years of religiously inspired hatred in the Middle East doesn't just disappear when when the Western world decides to abolish theocracy huh? It's almost as though they don't give a crap about what the logic and reason of the West, and instead they continue to live their lives the way the way their dogma dictates they must... You cannot reason with the deeply religious, for religion is not based on reason or logic, but on xenophobia and a deep seated need to believe.
popecorkyxxiv (October 10, 2008 at 1:50 pm)
That's a good comment but I think it's slightly inaccurate. A more apt quote would be US politics is like two sheep and a wolf in sheeps clothing deciding what to have for dinner, the wolf will say anything the sheep want to hear, but in the end the menu has already been decided. Human society will always have one class ruling, once it was the military that ruled, then the church, then the mob, now it's the merchants, maybe it's time we let the scholars rule since they are the once that know how
packlakedm (October 10, 2008 at 9:27 am)
Exactly... Democracy in the usa is like two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner...majority rules, minorities lose...
jimiydoorshamelech (October 4, 2008 at 4:41 pm)
Darfur has killed 400,000 in less than 5 years, not to mention the countless women left alive and gangraped by govt sponsored militia
Israel-less than 5,000 in the last 10 years, and by far the bloodiest 10 years of Israels existence since the declaration of the 2nd intifada, bloody war declared by Palestinains after Israel offered them E Jerusalem W Bank and Gaza, and they refused
ranjistudent (September 26, 2008 at 3:47 am)
so true coquers, invaders, dominations, all repeat. no point |