vicko77 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I used to live in London where we had a lot of gatherings with raelians,on sundays mostly.There were some nice gay boys,I know them personally,we had meetings like some chatting party and so.... I encourage you to take part some day. I was there in 2003,so it is a long time ago and I dont know where they meet these days.But write on uk dott rael org there they ll tell ya

AnHermeticPilgrim (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Thank you for your reply. I very much am in sympathy with most of the ideas of Raelism, especially in relation to self-development, human unity and personal liberty (I'm gay and religions that have an enlightened view on that are rare). Also the ideas involved on the origin of human life could account for the many flaws in the fossil record and the records of ancient pagan gods. I have not yet read any books by Rael himself though I intend on doing so soon. -Luke

vicko77 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Hi Bro.... Thanks for reply.... yes, i agree, i have also searched through many many other spiritual beliefs before becoming raeliän finally where I foulnd myself comfortable and free at the same time. That is good on Raelism, it is totally free and gives no obligations except from your own development and except from obligation to spread Message of Elohim,which i do like 15 minutes a day on internet. Budhism is very interesting as it touches psychology,which is the most important.

AnHermeticPilgrim (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Yes. As in the human race. I refuse to wear religious labels of any kind though if I had to give a specific religious denomination I would say Traditional Satanist with an interest in Buddhism, Hermeticism, Baha'I Faith and Gnosticism. I also have an interest in Raelism and Extra-Terrestrial life.

vicko77 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Are you then a satanist or a christian? Or u used 2 b a satanist? Do you mean RACE like HUMANITY,HUMANKIND?

AnHermeticPilgrim (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

You are talking to an old-school Satanist here. I do "good" (whatever that means) to others because altruism is benefical to the race and thus myself.

vicko77 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

give yourself a qutestion and meditate about it. Are you truly doing goodness to the others because of their happiness and nothing else? Or ... you may do it because of your reward in "heavens", and this thing in some people might be not conscious,they might not be aware that they are not truly giving love because of LOVE itself, but just for their reward from God.

AnHermeticPilgrim (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

"Distinguish it." I already have.

vicko77 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Until a religion is not fanaticial and until people are peaceful, full of love and humility, then a religion is okay for improving mental skills and love for humanity.But destructive faith,which preaches that we are some kind of slaves of a god,then it is a danger,cos creates hate and misunderstandings.Many people have a faith in a god,cos they are fearful,they hope they go to heaven after death and that is why they become good,cos they are fearing of God.That is shit.Distinguish it.

AnHermeticPilgrim (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Yes. The lyrics were written by a Born-Again Christian. rosicrucian org